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Post by arthur1920 on Jul 10, 2009 11:42:30 GMT -5
resistance fighters mustering under Alexis and light's rally plan: addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/115this add on will allow you to set Firefox browser to refresh automatically and you may pick from the available interval. Alexis and Light, What interval would be the most appropriate or does it not matter?
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Post by arthur1920 on Jul 10, 2009 11:43:57 GMT -5
Spreading the dvd's around.
Call your local free library, if they don't have a copy of TSCC season 1, buy them one and take the tax deduction?
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Post by arthur1920 on Jul 10, 2009 11:47:01 GMT -5
sorry, no idea why that double posted. told ya...no computer person here.
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Post by Alexis on Jul 10, 2009 23:28:49 GMT -5
resistance fighters mustering under Alexis and light's rally plan: addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/115this add on will allow you to set Firefox browser to refresh automatically and you may pick from the available interval. Alexis and Light, What interval would be the most appropriate or does it not matter? I've got no idea. It was Light's suggestion. You can write a PM to him on the Wiki.
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Post by Alexis on Jul 11, 2009 2:36:49 GMT -5
Sorry about the double post. Important announcement: ____IF YOU ARE READING THIS -- YOU ARE THE RESISTANCE____
ALL WEEKLY T:SCC INTERNET RALLIES ARE NOW COMBINED INTO ONE NEW GLOBAL RALLY
Over time the weekly internet fan rallies have slowly lost participation. To simplify and end confusion, to gain strength and speak with one united voice, we will bring every fan from all countries from all over the world together at the same time and place.
STARTING ON SUNDAY JULY 26 ALL RALLIES COMBINE INTO ONE BIG RALLY
We will rally at the Warner Brothers Forum: www.thewb.com/boards/showthread.php?t=506 and open different tabs for the various sites we also want to post at, including the SyFy Forum: forums.syfy.com/index.php?showtopic=2332484&st=3120 with the intention to add further sites in the future.
EVERY WEEK ON SUNDAY FOR 2 HOURS STARTING AT 1PM EASTERN TIME
The rally will begin at 1pm Eastern time, which makes the start time 10am for those fans on the West Coast of USA, and 9pm for fans in Moscow, Russia. This 1pm Eastern start time is a compromise so that everyone from LA to Moscow can have a convenient time of day to participate. Fans can calculate the 1pm Eastern (New York City) start time into their own local time by visiting this link: 24timezones.com/
>>> ON SUNDAY 1PM EASTERN JULY 26 2009 THE WHOLE WORLD WILL UNITE AS ONE TO FIGHT FOR T:SCC <<<
___________________VIVA LA RESISTANCE__________________[/color] Message composed by b2tbone and originally posted on Terminator Wiki (Page 16) Please, spread the word. Hang in there, baby!
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Post by schmacky on Jul 12, 2009 23:18:06 GMT -5
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Post by Alexis on Jul 13, 2009 3:11:47 GMT -5
Loved that video. It's very touching. ____________________ I've been thinking about an effective way to coordinate the Resistance actions and I came to the conclusion that we need to create something like a "Resistance Council" composed by members from SCS, savethescc.com and the Wiki, taking into account that most of Resistance Fighters concentrate in those 3 websites. Having established that, I think these 3 websites need to work together. We need to have exactly the same information in specific sections created for such purpose by the admins of each website. The Resistance Council might represent equally the 3 of them and might gather at least once a week in a conference where the selected ideas and campaigns discussed in each website were presented, discussed and, given the case, approved by the Council and, then, a poll might be used in order to include everyone in the decision making process. Maybe it sounds a bit crazy, but it is the only way I can imagine to organize and coordinate our efforts effectively. So, what do you think? Poll: A- Take a break and lock yourself in Pescadero. B- That's an ambitious project. It might be difficult to do but it could work. C- That's what we need. Let's give it a try!
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Post by schmacky on Jul 13, 2009 12:08:21 GMT -5
We sort of have one unofficially. I used to always be in the wiki and still go there, Roxy is from SCS, and Aelysian is from savethescc and there are others as well and we meet up and talk about campaigns and all sorts of stuff.
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Post by Alexis on Jul 13, 2009 13:14:42 GMT -5
We sort of have one unofficially. I used to always be in the wiki and still go there, Roxy is from SCS, and Aelysian is from savethescc and there are others as well and we meet up and talk about campaigns and all sorts of stuff. Yep, but what if we made it official? With an specific section in each website where the official Council could post the same info for every Resistance Fighter, no matter which website they prefer. I am a member of SCS, savethesc and the Wiki too, but I think that many people probably use just one of them as a source of info, and most of people do miss a lot of important things in which they might be willing to participate. That's the problem with the Resistance these days. Possible solution: If there was exactly the same info posted on the 3 main TSCC websites as an "Official Global Resistance Bulletin" in an specific section created for such purpose, all of the campaigns would spread much faster and, even more relevant, our efforts would be much more coordinated and effective.I think the Resistance needs a solid structure. IMHO, we need to unify the channels of communication in order to stop the division and eventual disolusion of the Resistance in tiny isolated groups of just a few people working on their own and without any global results. That would be a terrible ending for such an amazing fan base. BTW, you didn't choose an option for the poll! Don't worry, I will apply the default option: A. ;D
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Post by b2tbone on Jul 13, 2009 15:13:24 GMT -5
I am also, like Alexis, a member of all three sites and while each location is bound to have its own favorite campaigns (which is a good thing), I do agree with Alexis that it would strengthen us to combine forces on certain messages, topics, and campaigns.
Everyone here has a job and a family with real-life demands, and has to ration their time which can be given to the Resistance, so it would help immensely to formalize a weekly meeting of a council representing the various sites (perhaps just the big three, as Alexis said), or at least some sort of organized union, with the purpose of choosing a small, limited number of campaigns (for example, the New Weekly Global Fan Rally) that we could share in promoting.
It takes a great deal of time for us fans to check at place to place for all the different announcements. As time goes on, future real-life demands will pull people away from the Resistance, so it would benefit all of us together if we could have the three major sites work in co-ordination on a few, limited on-going important battles.
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Post by rossbondreturns on Jul 13, 2009 18:27:07 GMT -5
I will happily get the word out on all major ideas and events through my Terminator Blog. With 6,000 plus hits and climbing and me getting oof my ass and doing daily updates again I can pretty much assure the word will get out. I could also create a new page on said blog called: Resistance Command Or some such detailing links etc for rallying Resistance around to save SCC. terminatornewsnetwork.wordpress.com
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Post by allergygal on Jul 13, 2009 19:25:13 GMT -5
Schmacky - I totally love that video Alexis - I totally love the united fan rally idea. I was all into the first few fan rallies and then new nothing about them continuing or when or on what boards. So doing them one time a week all at once sounds like a great idea. I'm definitely all for bringing people together from different sites. That was the idea behind savethescc.com. Aelysian started that as a place for fans from everywhere to have a central location for sharing ideas and joining into campaigns. People don't seem to use the message boards there very much, though, so I think most ideas tend to come about in the chatroom.
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Post by b2tbone on Jul 13, 2009 23:06:54 GMT -5
Alexis: I wonder if you would be open to a little tweak of your basic Resistance Council idea? What if we kept your basic idea the same to bring the big three TSCC sites together for a weekly (or maybe monthly) stradegy session to co-ordintate common efforts and shared campaigns, except we also invited in a representative from the big three international fan sites, too. The German fan site speaks for much of Europe, the Russian one is also huge, and the Argentinean site has fans from all over South and Central America (as well as Spain). @everyone: Just think if we formed a Resistance Council which was a "United Nations for TSCC." They could meet even just once a month and choose the campaign for that month -- for example, imagine the email campaign we could unleash if we all hit it at once from all over the world. Alexis and I have been working closely together on the New Global Fan Rally with a guy named Light who is a leader in the Russian Resistance. He speaks very good English, and has great teamwork skills. Alexis (if I may divulge) has in the past been a leader and moderator with the Argentinean Resistance, so then we may only lack contact with a leader from the German Resistance, and our mutual friend arthur is already working on this connection right now. It's fun to imagine the possibilities of such a world-wide co-ordinated effort. And we even have a meeting spot available because rossbondreturns has already kindly offered a location for the United Nations Resistance Council. (oo, that has a nice ring to it) What do you say, Alexis, is it okay I'm messing with your idea?
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Post by rossbondreturns on Jul 13, 2009 23:58:36 GMT -5
Well I've been meaning to place up a new free messageboard connected with my 3 blogs for a while. And in fact I've found a nice setup that give a free board/forum + A Flash Based chat room + a free image album and more. I'm thinking of signing it up either the RossBondReturns Name...or RossBondBlogs...and then maybe open a sub-board for the United Nations Resistance Council...or perhaps the United Resistance Forces Command. I'll likely sign up anyway...so I'll update this post as I go along. Time to get signed up methinks. nofatebutwhatwemake.aimoo.com/And there we go. Everyone play fair and if anyone want's to be a Mod who has done it before please let me know. Thanks.
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Post by Erika on Jul 14, 2009 13:15:17 GMT -5
Ashley Miller posted this rambling rant on his Twitter site and I thought that it was interesting.
spew 5: fandom and cancelled shows. For fandom to survive a show's cancellation, several things must happen. First, fandom must evolve. Bjo Trimble is largely credited with saving STAR TREK, and giving it a third season. After the third season, Bjo and fandom changed tactics. They shifted the focus of their campaigns from television to other media. ST:TMP came out of it. So did the space shuttle Enterprise. BUT Star Trek fandom was not just about writing letters. The fan community evolved into a culture. It grew beyond campaigning.Star Trek conventions. In the absence of the internet, conventions became an opportunity for fans to gather from all over, meet and talk.
Conventions and newsletters (yes, on paper) were the medium through which fans communicated and through which their culture evolved. You can see echoes of this in other fan cultures, many of which cross-pollinate with Trek; e.g., the Browncoats, who birthed "Serenity". The Browncoats have their own culture. For starters, the uh... brown coats. Not the most polychromatic fans ever, but get they the job done. There are sub-conventions within conventions for all of these fan cultures -- from Trek to Firefly to Beauty and The Beast (for frak's sake) aside, sotto voce: the Beauty and the Beast gatherings always vaguely weirded me out at cons. No offense, just sayin'. Meow. Grr. Purr.
My point: if fandom of any show is to significantly endure past the show, it must develop more interests than resurrecting the dead show. It helps if the show has some trademark visual elements -- red shirts. Brown coats. Long scarves. er... fur. These become fan emblems. Which brings me to the second thing fandom needs to survive: BRANDING. A strong brand gives the fans things to talk about, things to wear and things to ultimately have schisms and fight over. A bit like religion BTW, these things do not have to actually exist in the original show in the form that fans talk about it. They have to be appropriated. Star Trek is the perfect example. People talk about the "philosophy" of TOS. Here's a hint: *cough*BULLSHIT*cough*.
Let's look at IDIC -- infinite diversity, infinite combinations. Ostensibly the heart of Vulcan beliefs. They even hand out badges. Do you know why fans talk about IDIC? Not because Spock had a throwaway line in a middling episode. BECAUSE THEY HAND OUT BADGES. IDIC badges are emblems. They're an easy thing to identify a member of the culture. They are easily boiled down to something pithy. ...and IDIC badges made their way into the fan culture because Roddenberry merchandised the unholy frak out of them. Yep, here come the angry tweets. Thus, proving my point.
won't digress here into Kirk arming two sides of wars (habitually), destroying entire cultures, etc -- it's beside the point The point is that features and attributes of the characters and universe were distilled down into something fans could discuss in shorthand Also, badges. T-shirts. Pamphlets. Many of which were inspired by or directly marketed by Roddenberry on the college lecture circuit. Fans took over a lot of these functions in the long run, but it doesn't matter. They're in the culture. And that culture has endured. The last thing fandom needs to evolve is... a head! Star Trek had Bjo Trimble for a long time, e.g. Sweet woman. What a pleasure to meet her I'm not in the other cultures enough to tell you who these people are. But I can throw out a couple of names... Gene Roddenberry. JMS. Joss Whedon. The head can be "spiritual" if not actual, as long as fandom self-organizes. Roddenberry is both the best and worst example. Best: GR didn't organize the letter-writing campaign to bring back Star Trek. Fans did that. But he gave them something to talk about.
OTOH: the lecture circuit where he manufactured, merchandised and marketed the frak out of an idea to keep it alive. God bless him. What this boils down to: fans (with organization) create a machine that is fueled but not overtly managed by a spiritual leader. Trekkies (yeah I'm man enough to call myself that) would not exist if all of these things were not true. There is one last piece of the puzzle which is beyond fan control but gets back to the origins of fandom: generation of new material. It's a circle. Do you see? DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
So... keep doing what you're doing. But it's time to think beyond letters and pancakes. Step back from the show to *the idea of the show*. as an aside... am I the only one who thinks I just deconstructed TV fandom as a religious movement? Don't know about you, I'm disturbed. Here endeth the spew.
For branding purposes - we simply need to all just start calling ourselves "Chroniclers" - it differentiates us from being just Terminator fans and is specific to the show. Our site name can be updated to "Sarah Connor Society - Home of the Chroniclers."
I'll work on a main site upgrade/redo in its look after Comic Con. Hopefully by then I'll have some free time to work on stuff here.
If my own life wasn't such a mess at the moment I'd consider picking up that leader torch that he talks about because I'm certainly good at riling up the troops.
One thing that grabbed me was his newsletter idea. I don't have the time to put together our long news posts on the main site anymore - I just don't. However, maybe we can work on a few big newsletters a month. If anyone is willing to help out w/ that - our blog is the perfect place for that.
Comic con is filled w/ fan gathering events - we have a year that we can work on organizing things and maybe try to get a small room w/ time at next year's Comic Con. With Warner Brothers always having such a huge presence at CC - that would have to raise their eyebrows.
We can have shirts - hand out buttons/stickers/ etc to get our cause moving forward.
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