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Post by allergygal on Feb 25, 2009 19:03:20 GMT -5
Total freakiness. And I think I'm going to love this episode. In Earthlings, Sarah said she killed the waitress that she used to be. In Good Wound she tells Kyle she's going to die and he says it wouldn't be the first time (which I assume also references who she was when he met her). Now she's dreaming about Winston saying he killed her, so I take that to mean that Sarah thinks killing Winston changed her — killed who she was. I sense transformation, but into what I'm not sure. I can't see her becoming harder, especially since Kyle seemed to be trying to pull her back from acting like a machine. But I don't see her softening up either. She's struggling with who she is, that's for sure. Hmm. Is it Friday yet?
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Post by gothamite66 on Feb 25, 2009 19:21:46 GMT -5
Total freakiness. And I think I'm going to love this episode. I'm sure I'm going to love this episode. I love freaky, dreamy, surreal kind of anything. So much is packed into those kind of episodes. This is going to be a several viewing episode, and not just because I love this show but because it will take that long to absorb all the hidden details. Gosh darnit, not yet!
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Post by k8ie on Feb 25, 2009 20:22:58 GMT -5
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Post by allergygal on Feb 25, 2009 20:30:25 GMT -5
I wonder if we're not going to know what's real and what's not (back to Earthlings dialog again).
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Post by battlejuice on Feb 25, 2009 20:37:03 GMT -5
I wonder if we're not going to know what's real and what's not (back to Earthlings dialog again). 1st, I second what gothamite66 said. This one'll be a guaranteed multiple view episode. 2nd, after said multiple views, I'm sure it'll all be chrystal clear what's real and what's not. 3rd, I'm just going to assume there are going to be subtle verbal and visual cues all through out, linking things back and forth. 4th, Based on what Josh has said that these eps are all part of one big arc, how Sarah comes out the other end will have to indicate change. Could it be possible she's even more badass!?! I say to thee, yes! I love these kinds of twilighty, x-file-y shows. I'm getting more and more hyped for this show.
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Post by littleb on Feb 26, 2009 3:11:42 GMT -5
Total freakiness. And I think I'm going to love this episode. I have to admit there was a certain amount of *squeeing* going on a few minutes ago when I watched the clips... ;D I always wondered what that line was all about - literal or figurative. And I still wonder why Sarah looks so damn peaceful when she says it. I think we're going to have a dreams manifesting into reality thing. The way I saw it, she killed him, literally - bang, dead. He's already had a pop at killing her in a previous dream and she's survived (she's back dreaming about him a second time or a third time or whatever). One of them has to step it up - try harder to make it actually happen - and he closes the door of the truck, she flinches away from him. We've seen him trying to throttle her, slam her about in the preview, I think that's what he meant by stepping things up. Maybe the first time, she ends up with the head injury, maybe the second time he's not pulling his punches... And maybe I'm completely and utterly whistling in the wind here... She's struggling with what she's done but I'm not sure it has to change her in a major way, maybe she learns acceptance. The fact that Winston was shown to be a cold-blooded killer in Desert C might help. She's obviously suffering with guilt but I don't necessarily think there has to be a huge change in her character afterwards. No, it's Thursday. Do I have to start another official countdown for you guys?
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Post by gothamite66 on Feb 26, 2009 7:58:24 GMT -5
No, it's Thursday. Do I have to start another official countdown for you guys? yes I think you can figure out what my next words will be.
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Post by gothamite66 on Feb 26, 2009 8:03:57 GMT -5
It almost looks like the second promo is also a dream. Sarah's entrance and exit seem a little off and too abrupt and with John talking about how sometimes you can't tell the difference between dreams and reality, it's striking me that the whole exchange might be part of a dream. **what I was trying to say above but not so well, is that Sarah's entrance and exit in this clip has the same kind of vibe as the dream sequence in the pilot where she gets John at school. MOD NOTE: DUDE! What is with the doubleposting?! oops! I didn't even notice. I swear on my favorite flavor of ice cream to positively never ever... ever attempt to post at 5:00 am before I've had coffee.
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Post by allergygal on Feb 26, 2009 16:56:57 GMT -5
I think we're going to have a dreams manifesting into reality thing. The way I saw it, she killed him, literally - bang, dead. He's already had a pop at killing her in a previous dream and she's survived (she's back dreaming about him a second time or a third time or whatever). One of them has to step it up - try harder to make it actually happen - and he closes the door of the truck, she flinches away from him. We've seen him trying to throttle her, slam her about in the preview, I think that's what he meant by stepping things up. Maybe the first time, she ends up with the head injury, maybe the second time he's not pulling his punches... And maybe I'm completely and utterly whistling in the wind here... Ah that could be — that she's referring as much to a prior dream battle with him as the real life kill. That would point to her obsessively dreaming about the life or death fight she had with him, which makes sense. Mortality has been hovering over Sarah's head since the beginning of the series and with Winston, she not only killed someone, but she almost got killed.
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Post by battlejuice on Feb 26, 2009 19:30:25 GMT -5
I think we're going to have a dreams manifesting into reality thing. The way I saw it, she killed him, literally - bang, dead. He's already had a pop at killing her in a previous dream and she's survived (she's back dreaming about him a second time or a third time or whatever). One of them has to step it up - try harder to make it actually happen - and he closes the door of the truck, she flinches away from him. We've seen him trying to throttle her, slam her about in the preview, I think that's what he meant by stepping things up. Maybe the first time, she ends up with the head injury, maybe the second time he's not pulling his punches... And maybe I'm completely and utterly whistling in the wind here... Ah that could be — that she's referring as much to a prior dream battle with him as the real life kill. That would point to her obsessively dreaming about the life or death fight she had with him, which makes sense. Mortality has been hovering over Sarah's head since the beginning of the series and with Winston, she not only killed someone, but she almost got killed. I'm going with a mind bending twist. I don't know what. But there's going to be one. I can feel it.
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Post by littleb on Feb 27, 2009 17:01:42 GMT -5
No, it's Thursday. Do I have to start another official countdown for you guys? yes I think you can figure out what my next words will be. Gee, surprise me!? It's officially Friday and has been for a while. It's also officially bedtime over the pond. Y'all have a good episode ;D And remember if you don't own a Neilsen box: DVR, DVR, DVR!
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Post by schmacky on Feb 27, 2009 21:15:22 GMT -5
Holy hell that was an AWESOME episode. Natalie, Denise, and Lena are my friggin' heroes! That was the best live watching experience I've had of ALL the episodes of this series. Was hanging on the edge of my seat near the end. The twist was awesome and half of me expected it but that half was thinking of all possible scenarios. I wish I wasn't at a hotel, I want to immediately watch that one again!
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Post by allergygal on Feb 27, 2009 21:16:13 GMT -5
Holy frak. That was way better than I expected. I had no idea what was going on until the end.
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Post by Hollow Crown on Feb 27, 2009 21:24:43 GMT -5
A very well written and well executed episode.
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Post by stealthgear on Feb 27, 2009 21:25:17 GMT -5
That was a pretty good episode. I thought a skynet dream machine could have been cool. I am glad that lady got burnt up for smoking cigarrettes in bed. No fate but what we make.
Does anyone know what the coyote symbology was? Perhaps that dreams cross over into reality? I found this on a totally random website: Coyote: To see a coyote in your dream, denotes weakness and deception
Also another site said it was the trickster and represented the unexpected. So Cameron really didn't walk in front of John dressed this way? DARN! I need screens of that .
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