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Post by sandrinha on Jul 11, 2008 15:21:15 GMT -5
Ok forgive for this but if Cameron is blown up why doesn't her skin melt/burn. The girl is right smack in the middle of a bomb and her skin only gets a few cuts? Me thinks not...
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Post by k8ie on Jul 11, 2008 15:32:59 GMT -5
Well, Jeep goes boom and then we see Cameron kicking the door off, so it looks like she's inside there when it explodes to me.
The long answer is that outside of movies, car bombs are not a terribly reliable way of killing people - there are stories of people suriving mob hits IRL because the engine block or the firewall of the car took the brunt of the explosion.
The short answer is it's TV. ;D
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Post by t101 on Jul 11, 2008 15:43:39 GMT -5
Not everyone who gets blown up gets burned. Explosions kill with shrapnel most of the time, not fire.
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Post by k8ie on Jul 11, 2008 15:47:25 GMT -5
Or the force of the explosion itself, which maybe what jogs Cameron's chip.
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Post by sandrinha on Jul 11, 2008 16:20:52 GMT -5
The short answer is it's TV. ;D I think this answer is more plausible LOL.
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Post by allergygal on Jul 11, 2008 17:47:16 GMT -5
Hmm, did anybody else realize that John is going to be spending the remainder of his birthday running from Cameron? Wow, what a 16th b-day. At least it'll be memorable ;D Moral of the story: always send a robot to get the birthday cake in case your car is rigged with explosives.
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Post by IntrepidVillain on Jul 12, 2008 11:22:30 GMT -5
Hmm, did anybody else realize that John is going to be spending the remainder of his birthday running from Cameron? Wow, what a 16th b-day. Lol I was saying this on the Wetpaint forum. John's babysitter turns into a bad babysitter on his birthday. Sometimes birthdays go bad. Nobody knows why. Sometimes babysitters go bad. Nobody knows why. ;D At least it'll be memorable ;D Moral of the story: always send a robot to get the birthday cake in case your car is rigged with explosives. Send your babysitter there if you don't like her. Then, to your horror, you realise she isn't dead yet. She comes out of the car and comes over to get you . . . . . . also a good way of finding out if your babysitter is a witch. ;D
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Post by terminatornerd on Jul 12, 2008 11:58:47 GMT -5
Although we're left with mere scraps of data because of the mish-mashed promo trailers, does anyone feel the writers are perhaps contradicting themselves when it comes to Cameron's character (as in serious regression) and Terminators in general?
We've seen machines take MUCH worse punishment in the first two movies and they keep their programming intact. Now, Cameron has gone perhaps all funny in the noggin. John says her chip is damaged. Well... how can he fix the chip if they get her back? No future technology and he has no real advanced skills yet, which brings me to the next issue:
Cameron was shown to be MUCH more than a machine in Season 1: Curious, possibly searching for ways to associate with humans (trying to make friends, small talk, etc.), dancing, flirting a bit (maybe showing a kind of feeling for John), cracking tiny jokes, getting her feelings ruffled a tiny bit, learning not to kill indiscriminately, etc.
Now, after one jolt she's seemingly a one-note robot all of a sudden: attack, destroy, kill.
If that's a correct assessment on my part, then how is Cameron "different" than any other machine we've seen so far?
I always thought it would be far more cool if she was becoming self aware and sentient, where she would outgrow and shake off her root programming and take on free will. Where she would make up her own mind in a sense. That would be a real threat to Skynet. And THAT would be the reason she's different and special.
Instead of having her revert to form by way of the blast she is going through something closer to human shell shock and is confused and disoriented, but not "malfunctioning" in a robotic sense.
That way John can reason with her and talk her down from her emotional precipice rather than zapping her like any other machine and resetting her. I'd like a logical and humanly "reasoned" approach to dealing with Cameron so that it shows her someone out there actually cares about her. Caring and love takes the place of brute force and anger.
On another board I stated my opinion and suggestion that perhaps Future John actually never re-programmed Cameron at all. He was fascinated by her because unlike all the other Terminators he's worked on she shows a life spark he's never seen before... and he doesn't touch that at all (after all he is not a god creating "life codes"). That what you're seeing in Cameron is all her. She is what she is because she has become more than Skynet has ever dreamed: a curious machine without boundries, and a wonderous new being.
To me, it would be kind of interesting if at some point Cameron realizes she could be more than just a "Terminator" and maybe on her own volition has to make a choice. Could I be something else? Do I want to do this "job" any more? Do I actually "like" it?
I always pictured her getting prepped for a mission in her bedroom (now with a sign on the door like a teenager might that reads: "KEEP OUT! That means you, Derrek!") and is field checking one of her guns and then glances at her reflection in the mirror with the gun in her hand. She then glances at the ballet slippers hanging on a peg. Sort of like she's contemplating: what am I? Is this who I am? Is this what I want to be?
Reading a few replies to some of these thoughts elsewhere, I don't think I'm the only one who'd like a bit more of a philosophical bent to the show besides the action.
Just my $.02 worth.
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Post by t101 on Jul 12, 2008 12:13:38 GMT -5
The whole idea of Cameron "malfunctioning" because of the explosion bothers me as well. But we'll just have to wait and see how that is executed. Something tells they are not making things this simple.
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Post by allergygal on Jul 12, 2008 12:21:23 GMT -5
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Post by vicheron on Jul 13, 2008 10:49:57 GMT -5
I can't see how the Connors could afford to keep their house after that. There was an explosion, a fight, possibly gunfire. Police should be all over it. It is Los Angeles. Hardly a day ever goes by without something getting blown up. Since the Connors seemed to have been forced to flee from their home, they probably won't have many weapons. I hope that means the return of the pipe bombs Kyle tought Sarah to make in T1. I wonder if they were able to get the diamonds before fleeing. They're going to need money for a hide out, supplies, and weapons. At the very least, they could take a page from Captain Kirk and make a diamond cannon to fight the Terminators.
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Post by Deep Art Frummy on Jul 13, 2008 12:32:51 GMT -5
I thought they were in New Mexico?
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Post by Derek Reese on Jul 13, 2008 15:14:18 GMT -5
They were early on in the pilot until the Artie caught them. Once they hit the bank, they were within Los Angeles and have been there ever since.
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Post by Deep Art Frummy on Jul 13, 2008 15:31:49 GMT -5
I'll be damned.
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Post by Erika on Jul 16, 2008 16:49:37 GMT -5
Derek would probably be able to go back and get their guns and clear the house out before they had to move.
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