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Post by VALIANT CHAMPION on Apr 3, 2009 20:04:19 GMT -5
Did Cameron shoot a cop? It looked like it.
I don't think John and Cameron have a chance of trying to destroy Weaver's building. Hopefully they will understand that John Henry is one of the good guys.
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Post by ga5speed02 on Apr 3, 2009 20:26:31 GMT -5
well i cant wait a week. this is going to be great. i hope it is a good ep and want me begging for more
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Post by jdub87 on Apr 3, 2009 20:43:50 GMT -5
Will this episode only be an hour long? I can't imagine they can tie everything up (in the event of cancellation) in a one hour episode...
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Post by thefallisshort on Apr 3, 2009 20:51:32 GMT -5
Was John and Cameron's "Sarah betrayed us by going to Charlie" or whatever talk what the "betrayed spoiler is all about? I mean...they used the word betrayed...
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Post by thecolours on Apr 3, 2009 23:58:05 GMT -5
Did Cameron shoot a cop? It looked like it. I don't think John and Cameron have a chance of trying to destroy Weaver's building. Hopefully they will understand that John Henry is one of the good guys. Oh, they're definetly going to try and blow up Zeria corp. I hope John Henry isn't in the building when that happens though.
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Post by Hollow Crown on Apr 4, 2009 0:15:22 GMT -5
Did John say to Cameron "somewhere down deep, you want to kill me" in the preview for this episode?
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Post by thecolours on Apr 4, 2009 0:43:11 GMT -5
Did John say to Cameron "somewhere down deep, you want to kill me" in the preview for this episode? Yes. He said almost the exact same thing to Cameron in Vicks Chip too. I wouldn't look to much into it.
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Post by timstuff on Apr 4, 2009 2:00:15 GMT -5
Yeah. Taken out of context it certainly sounds dramatic, but I'm guessing that it's not nearly as big in the episode. Cameron will probably explain that her original Skynet orders and what she "wants" are two different things, and that will be that. On a related note, from the latest promo for the season finale there are some shots of John and Cameron on a bed in what appears to be a low-rent motel room. The lighting is pretty much the same as the shot from the Wondercon reel, implying it's the same location. This time, John is lying down on a bed while Cameron sits on it, which implies that in the Wondercon footage they were on the bed as well. I've collected some screen caps of these "motel" scenes in the album below: terminatorwiki.fox.com/album/95257/John+and+Cameron%2C+motel%3FSo... Why is John on top of Cameron looking as though he's just kissed her, on top of a bed? It looks like it might be somewhat deliberately reflecting events from the original "The Terminator." After all, I think we know what happened the last time a Connor got a cheap motel room with their attractive time-traveling protector. Now, admittedly I'm a Jameron fan, but come on... Sarah's in jail, so it's not like she's looming over John's shoulder, making sure he keeps his hands to himself this time.
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Post by aceplace57 on Apr 4, 2009 2:22:32 GMT -5
Future Cameron seemed to be heavily involved with the alliance offer to the T-1000. It would be very interesting if Cameron meets Weaver and recognizes her. Cameron would know that she isn't the big bad after all. She might be able to reason with John. But, Sarah never listens to Cameron. Sarah will launch an attack by herself if necessary.
I agree this could create a situation where Cameron has to warn Weaver and John Henry. The betrayal that the spoilers promise.
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Post by vicheron on Apr 4, 2009 2:33:17 GMT -5
They already know who Weaver is. Cameron should know what she looks like before meeting her.
I think that Cameron will try to kill Ellison now that Sarah isn't around to stop her and John won't do anything about it.
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Post by timstuff on Apr 4, 2009 2:57:21 GMT -5
Yeah... The only member of the Connor Clan that doesn't want Ellison dead is behind bars, which doesn't bode well for him at all... It is possible though that when Cameron discovers that Weaver was Ellison's employer, she'll have second thoughts about killing him. It'd be impossible for Cameron to know that Weaver is the T-1001 without meeting her in person, so I suspect that if / when she finds out that Weaver is part of the robo-resistance, it's going to be a total game changer. Whether or not John is as quickly swayed remains to be seen. Also, I find it interesting that Weaver states that she wants to speak to John in the preview. I can't help but wonder if she's going to give a second shot at negotiating with him, even though this is John's past self.
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Post by chrisimo on Apr 4, 2009 6:14:30 GMT -5
Also, I find it interesting that Weaver states that she wants to speak to John in the preview. I can't help but wonder if she's going to give a second shot at negotiating with him, even though this is John's past self. What I found interesting is that she said 'His mother thinks he is a Messiah'. Much like herself seeing John Henry as a Messiah.
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Post by t101 on Apr 4, 2009 8:35:05 GMT -5
Did John say to Cameron "somewhere down deep, you want to kill me" in the preview for this episode? I'm guessing she tells him about her conflicted programming.
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Post by littleb on Apr 4, 2009 9:18:39 GMT -5
Preview if anyone missed it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f_-liNGjnwOh no! Prison orange! And I'm sure that's the same priest from Samson & Delilah... which would bring things round to a nice full circle.
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Post by allergygal on Apr 4, 2009 11:11:25 GMT -5
^ Yeah that is the same priest. I think that's awesome. Okay, predictions... Short of time travel shenanigans (which I doubt, but wouldn't rule out completely), our Derek is dead in 2009, but I don't think we're done with Derek in the future just yet since we haven't learned the secrets of the creepy basement. Yeah, we know he gave up the location of the bunker and we know Cameron knows about that. But how and why is what we've yet to learn. And I think we're gong to see that from Cameron's POV since she's the only one now who could tell the story. Here's me guess about that. I think Derek knows Allison in the future and when he gets taken to the creepy basement, they have her there and threaten to kill her unless he gives up the location of the bunker. He does and then finds out it's not Allison; it's a machine — Cameron. That's why Derek immediately recognizes Cameron as a machine when he sees her at the base where John Connor is. And since there's a pretty big time lapse between when Derek gets captured and when he ends up there, that's probably the time period in which Cameron gets captured and reprogrammed by John. We're supposed to see Kyle again this season, so that means he'll appear in the finale. I was hoping his appearance would be another Sarah dream, but I think it's more likely it'll be in a future flashback of the bunker attack.
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