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Post by aceplace57 on Mar 5, 2009 0:20:04 GMT -5
Time to revisit Josh's list for the back 9 and see what fits with the Ausiello clip. I numbered them for easier reference.
We briefly saw #11, 08, 05, and 03. 06 Still isn't fully explained. Anyone particularly care about those three dots anymore? ;D
The three deaths are open for debate. The clip doesn't help much. Riley may be the first. I think it's too obvious. I bet they surprise us.
We do know (from the episode description) that Derek and Cameron have a mission together in Ep 20 -To The Lighthouse. So, they survive the next three episodes (17,18,19).
That's a start. Any ideas?
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Post by Hollow Crown on Mar 5, 2009 0:59:22 GMT -5
13, 14, 15 = Sarah, Derek, AND Cameron. :-o
How brutal would that be?
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Post by schmacky on Mar 5, 2009 1:07:50 GMT -5
13, 14, 15 = Sarah, Derek, AND Cameron. :-o How brutal would that be? Uh I think that would be a series finale. Yikes! Might as well have the bombs goin off too hah
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Post by Hollow Crown on Mar 5, 2009 1:13:14 GMT -5
That just reminded me of the ending for T3 and Claire Danes' unenthused and very bland acting.
Ahhhh, my head hurts now.
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Post by Erika on Mar 5, 2009 4:45:54 GMT -5
Caps are now up in gallery for the spoiler footage - I missed NADA folks!
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Post by DEM on Mar 5, 2009 10:38:16 GMT -5
06 Still isn't fully explained. Anyone particularly care about those three dots anymore? ;D I don't mean to sound hostile, but honestly I didn't understand this. JF also said something about this at the WonderCon panel too, right (or was it that conference call)? What more is there to understand about the origin of Sarah's concern with the "three dots"? What, is someone gonna break out an easel and draw a diagram starting from Automatic for the People? Seriously, someone help me out here. What am I missing?
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Post by Erika on Mar 5, 2009 11:49:45 GMT -5
06 Still isn't fully explained. Anyone particularly care about those three dots anymore? ;D I don't mean to sound hostile, but honestly I didn't understand this. JF also said something about this at the WonderCon panel too, right (or was it that conference call)? What more is there to understand about the origin of Sarah's concern with the "three dots"? What, is someone gonna break out an easel and draw a diagram starting from Automatic for the People? Seriously, someone help me out here. What am I missing? Once the Connors lost The Turk they lost their last real link/clue/path to finding Skynet. The first 1/2 of the season had them distracted by Termiantors constantly out to get them and they didn't have any means of finding Skynet's path again. Sarah's dreams, her visions of the 3 dots led them to the HK, which led them to the warehouse that Catherine blew up, that led her to the metal distribution company where she got kidnapped at - next step? This is going to lead them to Zeina Corps which will bring them right back to John Henry aka The Turk. Sarah's visions, her obsession over them was something in her subconscious telling her that if she followed those symbols that she'd get them back on the right path and back on the trail of Skynet. Plotwise maybe the last 4 eps seemed slow or boring to some people but they were necessary in order to bring a believable way for the 2 separate storyarcs (Connors vs Catherine) to come crashing together at the end of the season. Sure they could've just stumbled upon some clue - but this show is about SARAH and it's nice having it be that out of all of the craziness in her life, she's the one who will lead them all back on course and back on their real mission which is to stop Skynet from ever being created.
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Post by aceplace57 on Mar 5, 2009 12:33:36 GMT -5
So far, Sarah still doesn't have a direct link to Weaver's corporation. Sarah shot her one witness between the eyes. The three dots may still come into play or they'll come up with some other convenient plot device. The spoiler reel confirms that Sarah eventually bumps into Weaver and that's what matters. I lost interest in the 3 dots long ago and could care less whether they are mentioned again. Derek and John would probably agree. I was surprised that the prototype aircraft and the guy that stole it wasn't in the Ausiello clip. I'm sure he'll pop up in one of the episodes. The prop dept spent too much on the thing not to use it again.
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Post by littleb on Mar 5, 2009 13:51:39 GMT -5
So far, Sarah still doesn't have a direct link to Weaver's corporation. Sarah shot her one witness between the eyes. The three dots may still come into play or they'll come up with some other convenient plot device. The spoiler reel confirms that Sarah eventually bumps into Weaver and that's what matters. I lost interest in the 3 dots long ago and could care less whether they are mentioned again. Derek and John would probably agree. I vaguely remember Zack saying something about the dots having more of a concrete foundation for Sarah than just the basement blood, that the explanation was written into The Good Wound and then taken out because it didn't fit the episode. IIRC he said it'd be brought up later at a more appropriate time. (sorry!) *Karma* for the caps too Erika. Sarah might be going all bad-ass n self-defibbing crazy but she's still found time to have a very pretty new hair do for when she meets Weaver. I can't tell whether those are auburn highlights or she's just catching the reflection off Weaver! Either way, me likes ;D
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Post by DEM on Mar 5, 2009 17:05:18 GMT -5
Wait, did it sound like I was complaining about the Sarah-focus of the last 3 or 4 episodes? I was not. What I was questioning was the need for more "explanation of the three dots" -- which I've understood to mean explanation of the origin of Sarah's concern with them. We already know that the "three dots = HK", so that can't be what "explanation of the three dots" means. Littleb -- thanks for the reminder of ZS's post; that's probably what I was remembering. Frankly -- and this may be my bitterness talking -- I don't see what's to be gained from spelling out in black and white some specific, concrete explication that goes beyond the basement wall. That is, most of the viewers who think the wall was insufficient are not going to be satisfied with or care about any further explanation anyway. It's not as if Sarah gets much credit for tracking down the proto-HK project, right? So why add to/renew the tumult?
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Post by k8ie on Mar 5, 2009 17:33:26 GMT -5
I think resolving the three dots is worthwhile if the explaination illuminates character and builds the universe in some way.
So far, I've never been disappointed when TSCC picks up a plot thread it's filed away. It's not a big deal - I'm happy with the idea that Sarah picked up on the "one of these things is not like the others" aspect of the three dots on the way but if there's a bigger, better, more compelling explaination, I wouldn't mind that either.
Especially if it involved a flashback with Kyle but that's probably a little too much wishful thinking.
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Post by aceplace57 on Mar 5, 2009 18:32:42 GMT -5
Another Ausiello clip observation, Savannah is being led down the hallway with flashing lights. Each time they flash, Savannah pauses, smiles and skips further down the hall. John Henry controls lights, AC etc. in that building. At first I thought the flashing was for dramatic effect. But, Savannah is definitely reacting to them.
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Post by terrasj on Mar 5, 2009 19:52:52 GMT -5
Karma Erikafor the effort in capping and uploading those 746 frame stills!
I just saved the last series of pics with John and Cam at the end... I hate to say it, but I think John had to deactivate Cameron. Just playing them back in Acdsee (rapidly tapping page down for the sequence, or setting the slideshow to 100ms delay). Looks like John's closing his eyes and inhaling, and swallowing hard for air. As if its something he finally had to do and didn't want to.
Then again, its hard to tell, as it seems Cameron gets scratched and banged up worse for wear in the earlier clips, at least 12 bullet wounds there...
Theres also clips of Sarah holding a bare endoskeleton hand, shortly later John's reflection in the window looking at her, then camera switches to John's face. If you look closely, its all in the facial & eye expressions, those aren't happy go lucky faces there. Thats the second time John closes his eyes, looking pretty down hearted there.
It possibly can't be good... Could be quite a sad season finale, very Shakespearean. And I really hope I'm wrong about this.
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Post by vicheron on Mar 5, 2009 20:03:23 GMT -5
Don't forget that Sarah has Winston's cell phone, it's not much but it's a start.
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Post by t101 on Mar 5, 2009 20:09:59 GMT -5
^ She's not deactivated. Her eyes are moving.
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