rossbondreturns
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Post by rossbondreturns on Aug 26, 2009 20:03:26 GMT -5
terminatornewsnetwork.wordpress.com/2009/08/27/salvation-gets-its-r-rating-back/To quickly overview my article there are only Two ways that a DVD release like this gets an R Rating and not an UNRATED rating...and they are: 1: The parents who rated Salvation for the MPAA thought it was R Rated BUT Voted to give it a PG-13 rating for it's theatrical release.2: WB or Halcyon or BOTH handed in the DVD for Re-rating and it was given an R.However in all honesty there is only one way that Salvation could get itself rated R...and that is if was already rated R in the first place. Because it is very rare for a studio to resubmit a DVD to the MPAA ratings board. This all means that Salvation was in all likely hood Rated R the entire damned time. I'm NOT surprised. But I am laughing ruefully.
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Rift
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Post by Rift on Nov 29, 2009 1:26:39 GMT -5
I don't care what its rated, its still the most disappointing movie I've run across in ages.
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Post by littleb on Nov 29, 2009 14:53:51 GMT -5
Salvation was largely bloodless, tepid and tame. It didn't warrant an R rating, hell, the toys and tie-ins strongly implied it was made with a family audience in mind. I'm suprised there were no cuddly-wuddly Endo teddy bears...
I'm not sure what your ratings standards are but it's a 12 on DVD over here which probably equates to your PG-13. TSCC S2 OTOH is rated a 15 because - despite being a TV show - it actually had the balls to make a franchise addition that was aimed at adults.
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terrasj
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Post by terrasj on Dec 1, 2009 23:48:13 GMT -5
Why wouldn't I be surprised if there eventually was an "uncut & unrated" version of T4 released on dvd, a version that did have more nudity, a sex scene, and footage of some people literally getting mowed down by T600 miniguns, and/or literally getting ripped in half at the midsection either by minigun fire or by the hands of a T600?
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Post by littleb on Dec 2, 2009 9:29:22 GMT -5
Why wouldn't I be surprised if there eventually was an "uncut & unrated" version of T4 released on dvd, a version that did have more nudity, a sex scene, and footage of some people literally getting mowed down by T600 miniguns, and/or literally getting ripped in half at the midsection either by minigun fire or by the hands of a T600? Maybe that's what it actually needed. Not necessarily the nudity, but the violence. Terminators... well terminate . They're scary. They don't stop, they keep coming and you really only need one bad one per movie (the TV show is a bit of a different animal in that it had a lot more time to branch out its stories but they still had Cromartie for a hell of a lot of episodes.) That was always the concept, the fact that one is enough of a badass nightmare that killing it was so damn hard it took the entire film. Salvation ran roughshod over that and had hundreds. And different types. And they were all apparently quite killable. It took the threat away, the OMIGOD why won't it stop?, threat. Remember Kyle...? "That Terminator is out there. It can't be reasoned with, it can't be bargained with...it doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear...and it absolutely will not stop. Ever. Until you are dead." I guess McG forgot.
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terrasj
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Post by terrasj on Dec 4, 2009 16:06:55 GMT -5
That being said... Theres quite a few pros and cons for T4:
- PG13 / PG14A theater rating - opened up the film to more viewers, younger audience. Whether that was a wise marketing move, I dunno...
- 14A rating remains (Canadian) on the 2 disk director's cut packaging however, bluescreen white text movie disclaimer info does have the R restricted rating
- IMHO the storyline was still good, despite lack of heavy gore, blood, carnage, violence, language, possible sex scenes. The story sold the movie for me. Its part 1 of a 3 part trilogy, theres 2 more installments to follow that'll get more grittier and darker.
- Could it had featured more gore and violence? Sure, probably. More soldiers cut down, some bloody splatter. Some innocent civilian survivors exterminated. If we're going for darkness & cruelness, a T600 exterminating a Mother and her young child scavenging for food.
Sure, T4 could've been way more bloodier and gory, with the same story and script.
Maybe a few more scenes like the first few minutes of Connors helicopter task force drop down having a rougher time and a few surprise deaths by still functional T600's.
I'm also sure if T4 was to be produced with the R rating heavy mindset, the movie very well could've been and turned out to be just a re-hashed BlackHawk Down, copying its shiploads of incredibly detailed (over-detailed?) gore effects scenes. There also likely would've been just enough complaints that the movie's story and plot got lost in the gallons of blood and gore emphasis.
Maybe McG didn't quite put enough gore and violence into T4. But I'm sure glad that he didn't go way overboard over the top in sensless bloodbath. IMHO, some movies unfortunately go this route, thinking it'll makeup for the lack of story. In all honesty, McG could've had for unfathomable reasons unknown have a large gathering of surviving humans in some open or city street area. All of a sudden HK's screaming down, T600's popping up slaughtering the crowd, going hell bent on wholesale slaughterhouse gore. T600's not just mowing masses of flee'ing humans down, but also brutally needlessly physically ripping wounded people apart limb from limb to kill them.
At least we still have:
- SkyNet's prisoner 'barnyard corel' where one prisoner climbs the walls to try escape and the T600 sentry mows him down.
- 3 men intending to rape Blair Williams
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