Terminator Infiltrator Units

[techcomsgtreese]

So, in Terminator 5, we see that, Robert Patrick, the T-1000 unit, is a Stem-Cell Research Scientist... ok, so we see that..

for TSCC, tv show, it shows "cameron" the termiator sent to protect John, you see her past, how they CHOSE her, studied her moves...expressions, before taking over her life..

What about Arnold Schwartznegger?
there was no past explaination, as to what his Human copy did, before he was terminated and used as a infiltrator...mayb in T5, they will show him as his past being a Governor of California, and the terminator terminated him, to take control...?

i know there wasnt much discussion, if ANY, and probably no need back then...but since the TV SHOW showed how Cameron Terminator Came to be...and how T5 tells how Robert Patrick,aka T-1000 was...thought maybe they could shed some light on to T-800s past...why him? why was he sp special they kept using him?

that PC game, was a bust, bought it and sold it in 6hrs after i played it..lol

anyway, im just curious...
why not just make the T-800 Kyle Reese? or a distant family member, why Arnold, in a character sense, i know he was chosen for his 80's style genre and all


they NEED to bring back TSCC tv show..

Leaving the End, where John Connor travels IN furture, makes him the non-prophet, save the world..type resistance leader,

[terrasj]

First of all, welcome to the SCS! Discussion of topics can be a bit slow at times but its great to see new members.

Dec 5, 2009 19:53:29 GMT -5 techcomsgtreese said:

So, in Terminator 5, we see that, Robert Patrick, the T-1000 unit, is a Stem-Cell Research Scientist... ok, so we see that..

Source?

I hadn't heard any details on T5, so thats a new one.


The rest of the post is a bit on the fragmented side, makes it tough to reply to without repeating some of it.

for TSCC, tv show, it shows "cameron" the termiator sent to protect John, you see her past, how they CHOSE her, studied her moves...expressions, before taking over her life..

What about Arnold Schwartznegger?
there was no past explaination, as to what his Human copy did, before he was terminated and used as a infiltrator...mayb in T5, they will show him as his past being a Governor of California, and the terminator terminated him, to take control...?

i know there wasnt much discussion, if ANY, and probably no need back then...but since the TV SHOW showed how Cameron Terminator Came to be...and how T5 tells how Robert Patrick,aka T-1000 was...thought maybe they could shed some light on to T-800s past...why him? why was he sp special they kept using him?

The human copy / template SkyNet used to make the T800
- He probably was a resistance fighter like Alison, and at some point captured. His muscular body size was a good fit in proportion to a T800, so SkyNet probably chose his appearance for the Series 800, model 101.

Why did John Send back an identical T800 that was sent after his mom?

I'm guessing at the time SkyNet didn't have much variety in their T800 line for appearances. Like a car manufacturer - create one template and use that for the production line. Perhaps later SkyNet realized one appearance would / has become recognizable and too obvious? Once a 101 model was recognized by the Resistance, its not possible for further identical 101 units to infiltrate the same place.

In one of the older comics, they do explore the choice for UncleBob to be sent back. Whether or not how Cannon it is, its one possible explanation. John Connor had led a team to break in to one of SkyNet's facilities, one with a TimeDisplacement machine. Some of the standby T800's activate, and the team manages to destroy most of them and disable / deactivate one intact. They dig out the cpu, plug it into the portable computer they brought. reprogram him, activate him, make sure he's accepted the reprogramming and send him back to protect John. Only weak spot there is having cut the skin tissue to get to the cpu cap, if there was any metal exposed it might not have worked.

anyway, im just curious...
why not just make the T-800 Kyle Reese? or a distant family member, why Arnold, in a character sense, i know he was chosen for his 80's style genre and all

Remember, Arnold's unit was model 101. There might've been more variants later on with different numeric designations. Model 101 might have at the time been the most common and abundant unit style.

Additionally, Kyle Reese was only one of several hundred humans captured and put into the concentration camps.

SkyNet had some large concentration camps for keeping human prisoners. So unless theres a specific attribute SkyNet was looking for, it probably just picked prisoners at random to copy for appearances.

Also, its likely that once SkyNet chooses a person's appearance to replicate, it likely destroys the original human. In TSCC Alison was one of those prisoners, escaped only to take her own life so she couldn't be interogated further.

that PC game, was a bust, bought it and sold it in 6hrs after i played it..lol

Never played it.

they NEED to bring back TSCC tv show..

Leaving the End, where John Connor travels IN furture, makes him the non-prophet, save the world..type resistance leader,

Agreed. And it was a great cliffhanger for a Season 3.

[techcomsgtreese]

Dec 5, 2009 23:48:11 GMT -5 terrasj said:

First of all, welcome to the SCS! Discussion of topics can be a bit slow at times but its great to see new members.

Dec 5, 2009 19:53:29 GMT -5 techcomsgtreese said:

So, in Terminator 5, we see that, Robert Patrick, the T-1000 unit, is a Stem-Cell Research Scientist... ok, so we see that..

Source?

I hadn't heard any details on T5, so thats a new one.


The rest of the post is a bit on the fragmented side, makes it tough to reply to without repeating some of it.







The human copy / template SkyNet used to make the T800
- He probably was a resistance fighter like Alison, and at some point captured. His muscular body size was a good fit in proportion to a T800, so SkyNet probably chose his appearance for the Series 800, model 101.

Why did John Send back an identical T800 that was sent after his mom?

I'm guessing at the time SkyNet didn't have much variety in their T800 line for appearances. Like a car manufacturer - create one template and use that for the production line. Perhaps later SkyNet realized one appearance would / has become recognizable and too obvious? Once a 101 model was recognized by the Resistance, its not possible for further identical 101 units to infiltrate the same place.

In one of the older comics, they do explore the choice for UncleBob to be sent back. Whether or not how Cannon it is, its one possible explanation. John Connor had led a team to break in to one of SkyNet's facilities, one with a TimeDisplacement machine. Some of the standby T800's activate, and the team manages to destroy most of them and disable / deactivate one intact. They dig out the cpu, plug it into the portable computer they brought. reprogram him, activate him, make sure he's accepted the reprogramming and send him back to protect John. Only weak spot there is having cut the skin tissue to get to the cpu cap, if there was any metal exposed it might not have worked.





Remember, Arnold's unit was model 101. There might've been more variants later on with different numeric designations. Model 101 might have at the time been the most common and abundant unit style.

Additionally, Kyle Reese was only one of several hundred humans captured and put into the concentration camps.

SkyNet had some large concentration camps for keeping human prisoners. So unless theres a specific attribute SkyNet was looking for, it probably just picked prisoners at random to copy for appearances.

Also, its likely that once SkyNet chooses a person's appearance to replicate, it likely destroys the original human. In TSCC Alison was one of those prisoners, escaped only to take her own life so she couldn't be interogated further.




Never played it.

they NEED to bring back TSCC tv show..

Leaving the End, where John Connor travels IN furture, makes him the non-prophet, save the world..type resistance leader,

Agreed. And it was a great cliffhanger for a Season 3.

sorry for the late reply..forgot to do a email notify...
..

Thanks for the reply...


T1000 source, was i think, IMDB, or the actual movie thread

[marblator]

I know these posts were done a while ago but here are my thoughts.

I don't think ALL terminator units were based on a human template. The idea of a terminator being made to replicate an existing human was only really introduced by SCC, but I wouldn't assume that's the case with them all. In fact I think the majority are just made up templates by Skynet. This includes the T-800-101 and T-888-Cromartie.

I think Skynet (or the other AI intelligence suggested in the second series) only chose specific human templates for specific reasons.

As for why John Connor sent back another 101, I kind of assumed it was so that Sarah would recognise him. Thinking it through... yeah, I'm not sure of the logic of that since her last exposure to that model was a nightmare. It could be some weird timey-wimey stuff, as in, he sent him back because he remembered that model coming back as a boy. Sure that judgement day was postponed, but maybe that part remained unaffected.

Or it was just the next one in the batch as has been said, and there were none others available. It could even be pure accident. Maybe they didn't see which first one went through! Kyle certainly didn't know what he looked like, hence waiting for the terminator to strike in the first film. He did know it was a model 101 though...

Hermmm...