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Post by Derek Reese on Jul 13, 2008 14:42:55 GMT -5
The way that seemed to have set it up seems to be implied, when Derek was tortured by the machines at house. Possibly another Cameron model toturing him....or at least that's my theory on it.
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Post by sandrinha on Jul 13, 2008 15:28:21 GMT -5
But isn't Cam a unique model? Does that mean that she is unique in expecifics to other models or unique as in ONE model made? It could be that the one that may have tortured him IS the one in 2007/2008.
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Post by Derek Reese on Jul 13, 2008 15:46:07 GMT -5
It's never been specified if she's a unique model within the series, anywhere during the first 13 episodes. Of course, we haven't seen much of the future at this point either.
Its possible that it could have been her, but only time will tell.
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Post by amelie on Aug 3, 2008 14:39:17 GMT -5
I wanted to know, do we have information about what's going to happens with Derek's story next season? Will he join the Connor's team even though, he dislikes Cameron....
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Post by schmacky0 on Aug 3, 2008 16:08:37 GMT -5
I wanted to know, do we have information about what's going to happens with Derek's story next season? Will he join the Connor's team even though, he dislikes Cameron.... I thought he already was part of the Connor team...
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Post by Derek Reese on Aug 3, 2008 19:39:33 GMT -5
Just my personal take, but it seems like he can be read as an independent factor of the team at times since he's willing to go, where Sarah may not be willing to go. Then again, Sarah seems to be taking charge of him as of the last episode.
Just going to have to see where it goes.
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Post by amelie on Aug 4, 2008 6:59:33 GMT -5
That's what I meant Derek... Even thought he cares about John, he actually has his own thinking and sometimes, disagree a lot with Sarah..
So, I just wonder if that will cause him trouble in the future...
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Post by schmacky0 on Aug 4, 2008 13:14:12 GMT -5
He has a different opinion and doesn't necessarily agree with Sarah or John, but it seems like he listens to Sarah. She told him not to shoot the cops, told him to stop when fakeSarkissian was in her home, ordered him to follow him, he tried to get Sarah to rethink about Cam going into the traffic light system, etc. The guy grew up with a chain of command and I think he's following it. He, of course, can always go wild some day because he might feel something NEEDS to be done to stop JD and it's something Sarah and/or John are not willing to do, but for the most part I see him as part of the Connor Team and listening to Sarah's charge.
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Post by Derek Reese on Aug 4, 2008 13:19:53 GMT -5
But that's not to say that he's not going to go, where the others aren't going to go. He's the type to get his hands dirty if necessary. As he showed with his mission towards killing Andy Goode to stop Judgement Day.
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Post by allergygal on Aug 4, 2008 14:00:11 GMT -5
But that's not to say that he's not going to go, where the others aren't going to go. He's the type to get his hands dirty if necessary. As he showed with his mission towards killing Andy Goode to stop Judgement Day. Yeah, Derek killing Andy was an important event because it established him as the guy who will do whatever he thinks it takes to stop Skynet from coming into being. He even verbalized that to John in the park scene in the finale... "you realize you'll do whatever it takes to not watch it burn again." His motives seem to be in line with Sarah and John, but his methods certainly are not. I also wonder how he can kill with such ease, especially his friend Wisher/Andy. I get the feeling Andy isn't the first person Derek's ever killed.
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Post by cyadon on Aug 4, 2008 14:04:20 GMT -5
There was a great interview with BAG about the motivations of Derek and he said that 'he knows he's lost already and doesn't care about himself, but about those two boys in the park and will do anything to make sure they don't go through that hell he went through'.
I think that tells us a whole lot about his motivations (and in pretty clear language, too). I don't think he carries any hope for himself at all anymore. Just stopping J-Day.
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Post by Derek Reese on Aug 4, 2008 14:13:30 GMT -5
But that's not to say that he's not going to go, where the others aren't going to go. He's the type to get his hands dirty if necessary. As he showed with his mission towards killing Andy Goode to stop Judgement Day. Yeah, Derek killing Andy was an important event because it established him as the guy who will do whatever he thinks it takes to stop Skynet from coming into being. He even verbalized that to John in the park scene in the finale... "you realize you'll do whatever it takes to not watch it burn again." His motives seem to be in line with Sarah and John, but his methods certainly are not. I also wonder how he can kill with such ease, especially his friend Wisher/Andy. I get the feeling Andy isn't the first person Derek's ever killed. I'd say more than anything it comes from the environment from the war itself. Its kill first or die first. Or at least that's the way it seems to read for me.
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Post by rossbondreturns on Aug 4, 2008 14:35:16 GMT -5
There was a great interview with BAG about the motivations of Derek and he said that 'he knows he's lost already and doesn't care about himself, but about those two boys in the park and will do anything to make sure they don't go through that hell he went through'. I think that tells us a whole lot about his motivations (and in pretty clear language, too). I don't think he carries any hope for himself at all anymore. Just stopping J-Day. I think that could also be his weakness. What ends up costing him more than he can imagine. When you are so focused on the future and changing it- you tend to loose focus on the present. That in and of itself makes Derek a prime target.
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Post by Derek Reese on Aug 4, 2008 14:55:24 GMT -5
Have to agree, Ross.
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Post by amelie on Aug 4, 2008 20:05:31 GMT -5
You actually have a point there Ross, if he is too much focused on changing the future he may as well lost himself within the present.. That was well said!
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