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Post by Derek Reese on Aug 6, 2008 22:42:37 GMT -5
Seems like that's what we've been waiting for more than anything since the first film.
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Post by k8ie on Aug 6, 2008 22:49:14 GMT -5
I think Future!War is going to be great but my concern about T4 is that when I saw the teaser on the big screen, I wasn't any more impressed than I watching it on the wee box on my laptop screen. That's concerning.
As for Bale, he's very good and Equilibrium shows that he can do a lot with very little in the way of script but to work as a movie, T4 needs to find that combination of brains, balls and heart that made the Terminator great, but it also needs to walk the line between fan-service and an original piece. It's not TSCC, it's not going to get 9 or 13 or 22 hours to establish itself - it's got 15 minutes to win the audience. And that's a huge challenge for anyone.
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Post by Deep Art Frummy on Aug 6, 2008 22:51:26 GMT -5
I'll tell you one thing, if the reports of Linda signing on turn out to be true, that will give me more confidence and it will show me that McG is VERY serious about this film.
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Post by Derek Reese on Aug 6, 2008 22:51:43 GMT -5
The teaser was actually far better than I expected and they didn't give us that much to play off of, but it works for what its goal was. Making us aware.
The next trailer should up the ante a lot more.
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Post by k8ie on Aug 7, 2008 0:02:17 GMT -5
I'll tell you one thing, if the reports of Linda signing on turn out to be true, that will give me more confidence and it will show me that McG is VERY serious about this film. I'm skeptical myself - it flies in the face of what McG's been talking about in terms of creating a new trilogy and, from a marketing perspective, I just don't see this info coming out a week after Comic Con when McG and Warner Bros went to so much trouble to put on a presentation to win over the hardcore geeks there. And from a site that no one's heard of that's already issued a denial to their own report. 'Tis odd.
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Post by Derek Reese on Aug 7, 2008 4:07:08 GMT -5
McG is at least putting himself out there and putting a blog out to at least put in some sense of mind in regards to matters at large.
Going into a franchise like Terminator, it's doubtful they'll reveal all. If Linda Hamilation officially shows up in some form, I'll be surprised. But honestly my focus remains on the movie itself and the world that's in play.
I trust the writers of T3 with it and I do have a little bit of trust for McG after seeing the teaser. He at least consulted for Cameron before going in. That's a big step in regards to things since this series started out in Cameron's head.
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Post by rossbondreturns on Aug 7, 2008 17:07:25 GMT -5
Seeing the Teaser on the Big Screen just made it all the more impressive and real to me.
And as far as I'm concerned he has delivered 3 films EXACTLY as the Production Companies wanted them.
That's 3 for 3 in my book.
And if what they're saying about the Comic Con footage is true...I'd say he's batting 4 for 4.
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Post by Derek Reese on Aug 7, 2008 17:08:44 GMT -5
Which 3 Ross?
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Post by rossbondreturns on Aug 7, 2008 17:52:01 GMT -5
Charlies Angels were filmed as requested by the Producers. To a T.
So was We Are Marshall.
I liked CA 1 and We Are Marshall just fine.
Whether one personally likes them or not...the key is...they were filmed as requested.
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Post by Derek Reese on Aug 7, 2008 17:53:12 GMT -5
I'll admit I did enjoy both Charlie's Angels. Missed the Muarry in 2, but oh well, way it goes in the business.
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Post by vicheron on Aug 8, 2008 1:01:00 GMT -5
Arnold likes winners. It doesn't really matter how good the 4 minute teaser is. In the end it doesn't even matter if he likes the film, if the film is successful he will support it.
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Post by Deep Art Frummy on Aug 8, 2008 15:05:34 GMT -5
Charlies Angels were filmed as requested by the Producers. To a T. So was We Are Marshall. I liked CA 1 and We Are Marshall just fine. Whether one personally likes them or not...the key is...they were filmed as requested. I respect your opinion and all, but exactly how does that fit into the supply and demand for the fans? The studios can order the movies any way they want them, but it still doesn't stop them from being terrible within the fan's reception. A great example of this is the studios that keep ordering the Scary Movies, Epic Movies, and now Disaster Movie. I'm sure the producers will make the film exactly the way the company wants them, but it doesn't stop them from being complete abominations. I respect McG and the job he does for his bosses, but again, it doesn't supply and demand the fans needs. So, IMO, he's 0 for 2, with a sac fly with We Are Marshall.
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Post by k8ie on Aug 8, 2008 16:09:27 GMT -5
I thought Charlie's Angels was brilliant - if you were four years old in 1977 and remembered being allowed to stay up until 9 to watch the show.
My childhood pals and I were the only ones in the audience laughing when we saw the flick and we were killing ourselves. Everyone else, not so much. But it was a one-trick pony. No interest here in CA2 and bad word of mouth terminated my interest in WAM.
I think he's a strong technical film-maker - unlike say, Kevin Smith, who's made twice as many movies and they all still look like they were filmed with someone's digital camcorder. But he doesn't write his own material and that makes me question whether he can bring the focus, not just in terms of the "look" of the film, but the story that James Cameron did. Cameron's movies are indisputably Jim Cameron movies - even when he's playing in someone else's sandbox (Aliens) - and that's the standard that McG is going to be held to, just like Mostow was (and failed to live up to).
I honestly don't know if he has the chops. I don't dismiss him out of hand but I'm also not overly confident. The trailer hit some of key notes for me but, as a finished work, T4 will have to a) live up to Jim Cameron's films and b) play to a wider audience than just the "fans". To make money, to be the movie that Warner Bros/Halcyon wants, T4 needs to be the summer movie, like The Dark Knight. To do that, it needs to work on its own (like TSCC) - respect what's gone before without being trapped by it.
And that is seriously tricky to pull off - whoever is calling the shots.
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