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Post by schmacky on Feb 27, 2009 22:53:15 GMT -5
You know... thinking of that scene, it occurs to me that it'll be interesting to review LH's acting choices in all of the van scenes, given that she (unlike Sarah and us) knew the whole story. I remember thinking that it was odd how "casual" Sarah seemed to be. Now that I know what was going on, I can appreciate what LH did there. Seriously, this woman should be nominated (and win) for an Emmy for this season. I mean, all the things she's tackled in just these last four episodes alone... wow!
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Post by rossbondreturns on Feb 27, 2009 23:07:47 GMT -5
Count me in Allergygal.
As a writer I 100 percent am behind another child of Sarah...and to raise it up a few notches:
1:I hope it is a daughter. 2: I hope we get to meet her.
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Post by k8ie on Feb 27, 2009 23:16:58 GMT -5
Y'all have obviously overdosed on Ugly Betty. That storyline is totally Meanwhile... who took Winston to the hospital? The radio call from "Good Wound" was "man shot" which I should have picked up on. So... Factory dudes whisk Winston away and begin to break down the operation. John Henry hears the report on an open line and informs Weaver who decides that the factory needs to be sanitized. Zoey's father misses out on the fun and decides that, rather than go back to work for Weaver, he'll steal himself some cutting edge unmanned weapons system technology. Meanwhile, Winston heals up and gets sent back by Weaver to find the person who shot him and whom Weaver believes stole the drone? Sound plausible? But if so... how does he find Sarah?
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Post by allergygal on Feb 27, 2009 23:32:58 GMT -5
Meanwhile... who took Winston to the hospital? The radio call from "Good Wound" was "man shot" which I should have picked up on. So... Factory dudes whisk Winston away and begin to break down the operation. John Henry hears the report on an open line and informs Weaver who decides that the factory needs to be sanitized. Zoey's father misses out on the fun and decides that, rather than go back to work for Weaver, he'll steal himself some cutting edge unmanned weapons system technology. Meanwhile, Winston heals up and gets sent back by Weaver to find the person who shot him and whom Weaver believes stole the drone? Sound plausible? But if so... how does he find Sarah? Yeah, I'm with you on all that. As for Winston... I guess if he knew Sarah like we know Sarah, it would make sense to simply stake out every metal shop within, say, a 50-mile radius, knowing she'd be beck on the hunt ASAP. ;D But since he didn't, it's a mystery how he tracked her to Western Metal. He must have been following her, but that doesn't exactly explain anything. And if he was following her, I guess that means he (and the people he works for) know where she lives?
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Post by thecolours on Feb 27, 2009 23:37:34 GMT -5
So, John has no problem with Sarah going out on missions all alone? I figured after she got shot in Earthlings, he would never let her doing anything that reckless again, by herself. I mean, isn't that why they went as a group to the funeral? So, no one would be left for dead.
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Post by schmacky on Feb 27, 2009 23:51:29 GMT -5
Sarah's voice-overs for this episode.. Opening Midnight is the witching hour. If you believe that kind of thing and most people won't admit it if they do. Midnight is the time when a door opens from our world into the next and we are visited by dark spirits of the shadow lands. The Incubus. The Succubus. The Old Hag. Visitors are known by many names but each story bears the same marks. The demons come after midnight in the first three hours of the new day when we are alone and vulnerable - deep in sleep and helpless, when we cannot move. They lay on us, press on us, suffocate us. Take from us what is most precious - our lives, our love, our sanity. Our sleep. If you believe in that kind of thing. Closing A spirit sits on a man's chest. She is strong, beautiful. She is here to steal his children. She is here to steal his future. He is paralyzed, the terror in him will burst his heart if he cannot control it. She is a nightmare. A demon woman. The oldest and most enduring stories told by man. The witching hour is controlled by witches. She is a bad dream. She is a bad bitch. If you're interested in reading over any of the other voice-overs from either season they can be found here (I don't remember/know if I ever posted this link or not before, if I have.. uh, this is a reminder?). terminatorwiki.fox.com/page/Sarah+Connor%27s+Monologuesthecolours..I don't think John was cool with his mom going off on her own. When they talked on the phone in the beginning he didn't sound too happy that she was out and about.
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Post by allergygal on Feb 27, 2009 23:51:35 GMT -5
So, John has no problem with Sarah going out on missions all alone? I figured after she got shot in Earthlings, he would never let her doing anything that reckless again, by herself. I mean, isn't that why they went as a group to the funeral? So, no one would be left for dead. I'm not so sure John had much of a choice in the matter. As far as we know, she told him she was running to 7-11 and then called from a metal shop. ;D
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Post by thecolours on Feb 28, 2009 0:27:51 GMT -5
So, John has no problem with Sarah going out on missions all alone? I figured after she got shot in Earthlings, he would never let her doing anything that reckless again, by herself. I mean, isn't that why they went as a group to the funeral? So, no one would be left for dead. I'm not so sure John had much of a choice in the matter. As far as we know, she told him she was running to 7-11 and then called from a metal shop. ;D Yes, but once he found out that Sarah was investigating another warehouse, all alone, you think he would tell her not to do anything until he, Derek, or Cameron got there. He seemed pretty nonchalant about it all, considering she was shot the last time, she attempted something like this. He didn't really put up a fight about it. I thought he would he be more over-protective. I'm being really nit-picky, but I rather see Sarah lie about her whereabouts. At least, John's reaction would make more sense.
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Post by Hollow Crown on Feb 28, 2009 0:29:08 GMT -5
I can't stop looking at that photo of Cameron.
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Post by cyadon on Feb 28, 2009 0:41:05 GMT -5
I can't stop looking at that photo of Cameron. I found plenty of reasons to like that scene myself, but I think we need to keep from getting too much drool on the floor here. Remember, there are ladies present so let's be respectful.
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Post by aceplace57 on Feb 28, 2009 0:48:10 GMT -5
Schmacky posted a transcript of Winston's phone call on the wiki. Interesting read! ;D He's obviously not talking to Weaver (she knows who blew up the place ). So, who patched up Winston? Who was he talking to? It's ironic Sarah and John might be hunted for something Weaver did. Unless, Weaver only pretended she was looking for the bomber? Hmm, the possibilities are endless.
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Post by thecolours on Feb 28, 2009 1:00:31 GMT -5
Some things I noticed after watching the episode again.
At the 41:44 mark there is a image of a skull in the sooty remains on the wall.
-Sarah's roommate Dana, is actually Sarah's self destructive past personified. Especially, her time at Pescadero hospital.
Sarah told Hector "She(Dana) dreamed she died in a fire." That's how Sarah died in her nightmare in T2. Then Hector commented, "She's not dead." Signifying that out of control Sarah is coming back. Expect, this time she's going to be even more ruthless. She executed Winston at point blank range. That's something T2 Sarah never could do. No mercy.
Also, Hector is persona of Kyle Reese. Go back and watch the scene between them two with that in mind.. And, the comment about the tattoo, "It's just for my girl. She thinks it's sexy." Only cements it for me.
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Post by k8ie on Feb 28, 2009 1:44:46 GMT -5
Karma for that analysis TC.
I'm still working up to a second viewing but that seems to hold together.
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Post by Rift on Feb 28, 2009 1:49:54 GMT -5
Gotta say, I really liked this one. I'd be lying if I said the fact that the John and Cameron interactions and return to the banter between them being part of Sarah's mind didn't make me feel a tad cheated, but the fact that they were capable of delving into her thoughts make it almost forgivable. Cannot wait until next weeks episode though.
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Post by allergygal on Feb 28, 2009 2:41:34 GMT -5
As for the C-Section, as I told k8ie, I think the reason why that may be different than the story that's been given previously is that Sarah has told so many lies and lived behind so many false personas that the truth is only told by the scars on her body, much like what was hinted at in the Good Wound. Remember, the first version of the story she told Kacy was a fabrication. Why couldn't the second one be? My problem with the story she told Kacey being a lie is it's too out of the ordinary. If you tell someone you had a child in while on a jungle hike in Central America, you can pretty much assume questions will follow. It would be a terrible lie to tell. If you want to cut off a topic because you're hiding something, you tell a run-of-the-mill story and people easily fill in the blanks on their own.
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