Terminator Films Could Tie In With Sarah Connor Ch

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Terminator Films Could Tie In With Sarah Connor Chronicles

By Kelly West: 2008-03-21 00:05:21

Those of us who got into Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles this season are still waiting to hear whether or not Fox has decided to pick it up for another season. While there hasn’t been any news on that as of late, there is news about the new Terminator movie and word is, there might be some tie-ins with the TV series if the show continues on for another season.

The news (or rather, “rumor”) about the movie is hat Kyle Reese (played by Anton Yelchin) will be a “central character” in the films. Some fans expressed concerns (to put it mildly) over Yelchin playing the role of Reese because he’s so young. As Christian Bale (who will be playing John Connor) is 30-something, and Yelchin is a teenager, there’s a pretty substantial age difference between the two characters. I think a lot of people assumed that Connor and Reese were around the same age. While it may not have been specified in the films, the age difference between the two characters has already been addressed in the TV series.

In an episode of The Sarah Connor Chronicles, John Connor (who is in his mid-teens) witnesses Kyle Reese and his brother Derek playing in the park. Kyle is just a child (five or six years old). So if John is thirty in the movie and Kyle is ten years younger than him (plus or minus a couple of years), that pretty much lines up in terms of the TV show.

Anyway, unless you’re one of those Terminator purists who takes pleasure in nitpicking every minute detail of anything Terminator-related, you’re probably wondering what the age issue has to do with the TV show. Technically, nothing since as I said, the whole age thing has been firmly established on the show. But word is, if The Sarah Connor Chronicles does get a second season, there might be some tie-ins between the new Terminator films and the TV series. If that’s the case, at least we know the age difference between Kyle and John won’t be an issue.

As for how exactly the new films would connect to the series, we don’t know. But I wouldn’t mind seeing some character crossovers. I’m pretty sure it’s been referenced that Cameron (the terminator in the TV series that’s played by Summer Glau) interacted with future-John. So they might consider working her into the new films somehow. I’ve also been enjoying seeing the story of Kyle’s brother Derek unfold on the series. So maybe we’ll see him in the films.

At this point, I’m just hoping that Fox gives the series another season. And if they don’t, we’ll have to settle for getting closure from the new Terminator films.

Source - Cinemablend

[tzigone]

I really do think it's better to keep them separate. Tie-ins are tricky. Some similarities, of course, and some characters will probably pop up in both continuities (besides Kyle, John, and Sarah obviously). I really don't want to see Cameron in T4. Derek is more logical. The thing is, his backstory would be different, and I don't know that the movie would have time to explain that and the new backstory for a probably-not-central-character. Maybe just a quick appearance or a reference to him. If Kyle gets a heavier plot-line though, we might see Derek a bit.

And I'm really hoping they don't have human-looking terminators in T4. Maybe in the sequels (if they have them as planned), but not in 2019. But I also really want it to be humans v. Skynet, not humans and a bunch of machines v. Skynet. We've already had the friendly Terminator in T2 and T3 and SCC - it's getting old. And I don't like an entire group of them fighting on John's side. Evens the odds too much, takes out the David and Goliath aspect, and really weakens the story and the victory, IMO.

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tzigone said:

But I also really want it to be humans v. Skynet, not humans and a bunch of machines v. Skynet. We've already had the friendly Terminator in T2 and T3 and SCC - it's getting old. And I don't like an entire group of them fighting on John's side. Evens the odds too much, takes out the David and Goliath aspect, and really weakens the story and the victory, IMO.

I agree. I really don't want to see another Terminator on the humans' side. And I agree that 2019 is too early for human-looking terminators. I know the timeline has changed but they were fairly new in 2029. I really think 2025 at the earliest.

[Derek Reese]

I think the door is pretty open to intrepretation at this point. They haven't given any dates as to when this movie starts exactly, so it could be easy to slide in either character and add to that, Cameron was already on John's side within the series. Really we've seen a number of them working for the Resistance at this point according to the series and the movies and tie-in novels.

[tzigone]

twilightpro101 said:

They haven't given any dates as to when this movie starts exactly

I thought they gave a timeframe. I thought they said it was 15 years after T3 - 2019.

Really we've seen a number of them working for the Resistance at this point according to the series and the movies and tie-in novels.

But the tie-in novels aren't canon, are they? I think I've seen them contradicted as new movies/shows come out. Anyway, I'm still sick of it. The Terminators have never interested me, in any of the movies or shows. And having them, rather than John and the humans, be the cause for victory really annoys me. Plus, as I said, the "good Terminator" thing has been way over done, IMO. And from the movies, and only the movies, it seemed to me that only the two Terminators had been reprogrammed to be good.

I don't like Skynet Terminators choosing to change sides, either. I like how the deleted scene had them made not to have the ability to do that (really wiser for Skynet, considering it turned on its creators for it not to give the same option to its creations).

[Derek Reese]

We've never officially seen how many Terminators have been reprogrammed besides the two. But that's not to say that they haven't reprogrammed and altered others. It really isn't stretching things at all. The TV series already speaks true of the errors with reprogramming as it is. And in war, it's not uncommon to use their own weapons against the threat at hand. What's to say otherwise here?

The books may not be canon and change each time a new movie or series comes out, but it's an example of the effectiveness of using Terminators against themselves.

But again, this is the logic of the war we're talking about here.

And the Terminators never have a decision in regards to their reprogramming or what side they fight on in regards to the movies. Same falls to the TV series. It's never been mentioned in the books as far as I can recollect either.

[t101]

TSCC makes it seem the reprogrammed Terminators are a very new development in 2027. Derek has certainly never seen one before.

Also as Terminator lore has it. The very first infiltrator machines were the rubber skin ones. IMO the movie should start from there.

I'm wary the movie would define so many things that the series would have to then constantly look back at it, as cool as I think a Cameron cameo would be. Also, future!John would seize to be a mystery.