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Post by allergygal on Nov 1, 2008 0:19:47 GMT -5
I'm wondering if this could mean Sarah would be the target. Maybe this is a terminator that was supposed to be a follow up to T1 Arnie to kill Sarah before John is born, but he lands in 2007 instead. The Connors certainly wouldn't be expecting that. What, and make an episode that is totally and utterly without question about Sarah Connor? C'mon now, they don't do that here on the Sarah Connor Chronicles But I can still dream can't I?
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Post by vicheron on Nov 1, 2008 0:39:05 GMT -5
Plus, history is forever changed when a Terminator is sent back to the wrong time. Gene Roddenberry always wanted to do an episode of Star Trek where Spock goes back in time to become the second shooter and assassinate JFK. Could this episode of TSCC fulfill his dream?
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Post by schmacky on Nov 1, 2008 4:52:17 GMT -5
By the time we get through 22 episodes, I guarantee the one thing no one will be complaining about is that we didn't do enough episodes focusing on Sarah. I'm not so much complaining, but more like friendly rib-nudging
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Post by aceplace57 on Nov 1, 2008 12:01:37 GMT -5
This must be the episode they were filming when Virgin 1 shot the behind the scenes video. Sarah and Cameron were in period clothing. There's a couple screen caps in the spoiler photos thread.
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Post by wb5 on Nov 1, 2008 13:55:37 GMT -5
Period clothing! Cameron was wearing an evening dress, and there was nothing indicating Sarah was in period clothing (the hair thingy was not a hat, apparently).
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Post by speedhunter on Nov 1, 2008 13:57:09 GMT -5
Something tells me the will hit the fan.
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Post by tom on Nov 1, 2008 15:10:23 GMT -5
You think?
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Post by aceplace57 on Nov 1, 2008 17:37:23 GMT -5
Period clothing! Cameron was wearing an evening dress, and there was nothing indicating Sarah was in period clothing (the hair thingy was not a hat, apparently). The dresses seemed to have a retro feel. It's so rare these days to see women in nice dresses. I may be over reaching, and jumped the gun. I got too excited. ;D
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Post by Deep Art Frummy on Nov 2, 2008 11:31:12 GMT -5
Wth is period clothing? That doesn't sound pleasant.
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Post by tom on Nov 2, 2008 13:54:56 GMT -5
No, it does not... They must mean casual dress. I don't think it looks retro, although I know nothing about fashion.
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Post by richardstevenhack on Nov 4, 2008 3:06:16 GMT -5
Period clothing usually refers to dress which is out of style in the current time period. Meaning '80's big hair or something in the 2000's. I don't think what they were wearing in the Virgin shoot was "period" - and if they're relying on the audience to know what was in fashion in the '80's then, that would be a big writing mistake.
Besides Cameron was there - and there's no reason to believe she was operating in the '80's.
I surmise that since the Connors have been bumbling for numerous episodes now that this episode is intended - along with the Ellison Terminator being eliminated by Cromartie - to establish that Skynet is a bumbler, too. Or that time travel is unreliable, which would be an improvement over the notion so far in this series that you can send armies of people back any time you want for any trivial reason you want...
I mean, why didn't Cromartie simply explain to the Ellison Terminator that Cromartie NEEDS Ellison? Don't Terminators ever cooperate with each other, regardless of their programmed mission? If Cromartie can alter his mission to spare Ellison, so could the Ellison Terminator. And Cromartie could certainly make use of the Ellison Terminator to trick the Connors into making contact, couldn't he?
Once again, I wonder if the writers thought this through, or if they just thought, "Hey, wouldn't it be cool if Skynet sent an Ellison Terminator and Cromartie terminated it instead?"
Even if none of this makes any sense...
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Post by schmacky on Nov 4, 2008 3:29:22 GMT -5
It doesn't make sense to you right now because you don't know what's around the next corner.
People were complaining about the power plant and how that was filler and made no sense. A few episodes later it came back.
Some said the same thing about Jodie and why they spent so much time on her and yet a couple episodes later she came back...
Things will be revealed in one episode and may not be explained until another. It's not that the writers aren't thinking things through.. it's you not giving the writers a chance to tell the whole story.
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Post by richardstevenhack on Nov 4, 2008 22:21:08 GMT -5
Yeah, Jody and the power plant came back - because they were still there. The only reason Cameron didn't kill Jody is because the writers wanted to use her to get Cromartie to find where the Connors lived. OK, I buy that.
The Ellison Terminator isn't - unless Cromartie just dumped his body somewhere and somebody finds it. It would have been more fun in my view if the Ellison Terminator were co-opted by Cromartie. Now we've got TWO Terminators for the Connors to deal with (not counting Weaver), and one of them is an exact duplicate of someone who should be an ally. You could play holy hell with that setup - especially if you're planning on burying Cromartie in Mexico or whatever.
Not to mention the fun Richard T. Jones would have with that setup! They get to showcase his acting talents just like they showcased Summer's in "Allison From Palmdale"!
So I think the writers didn't think that one through.
But then I didn't see the Ellison Terminator coming at all - so you could be right that there's more to that than meets the eye. But as I've said before, I hope the writers can keep it all straight once they're out around episode 20.
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Post by chrisimo on Nov 6, 2008 2:45:14 GMT -5
Yeah, Jody and the power plant came back - because they were still there. The only reason Cameron didn't kill Jody is because the writers wanted to use her to get Cromartie to find where the Connors lived. OK, I buy that. Or maybe they just wanted to show some more 'odd' Cameron behaviour. The Ellison Terminator isn't - unless Cromartie just dumped his body somewhere and somebody finds it. It would have been more fun in my view if the Ellison Terminator were co-opted by Cromartie. Now we've got TWO Terminators for the Connors to deal with (not counting Weaver), and one of them is an exact duplicate of someone who should be an ally. You could play holy hell with that setup - especially if you're planning on burying Cromartie in Mexico or whatever. We simply don't know enough about the situation yet. What was Skynet's plan with Ellision? Was he to be terminated because he will help the Connors in future Episodes?
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Post by tom on Nov 6, 2008 11:12:17 GMT -5
Yeah, Jody and the power plant came back - because they were still there. The only reason Cameron didn't kill Jody is because the writers wanted to use her to get Cromartie to find where the Connors lived. OK, I buy that. Or maybe they just wanted to show some more 'odd' Cameron behaviour. The Ellison Terminator isn't - unless Cromartie just dumped his body somewhere and somebody finds it. It would have been more fun in my view if the Ellison Terminator were co-opted by Cromartie. Now we've got TWO Terminators for the Connors to deal with (not counting Weaver), and one of them is an exact duplicate of someone who should be an ally. You could play holy hell with that setup - especially if you're planning on burying Cromartie in Mexico or whatever. We simply don't know enough about the situation yet. What was Skynet's plan with Ellision? Was he to be terminated because he will help the Connors in future Episodes? My theory is Ellison was to be terminated because he was on Weaver's side, and Cromartie and Weaver were obviously not on the same side, and Cromartie was sent back by Skynet to kill The Connors, but we can't say the same about Weaver. We don't know if Skynet sent her back. Which leads to the conclusion Weaver may have been a villain to Skynet and that's why she's hunting for Cromartie, using Ellison. So if Skynet managed to replace Ellison with a terminator it could have got close enough to Weaver to mess up her plan, whatever it is.
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