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Post by Erika on Jan 23, 2009 12:32:27 GMT -5
Terminator's Riley: Is she dead? Is she back? In Fox's Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, we last saw Riley (Leven Rambin)—the supposed ordinary girl who befriends John Connor (Thomas Dekker)—lying unconscious on a bathroom floor, having apparently slit her own wrists. This after it was revealed that Riley was really—gasp!—a girl from the future, sent by Jesse (Stephanie Jacobsen) to spy on John. So is she dead? Does she come back? (Spoilers ahead!) Rambin told SCI FI Wire that she's not as dead as she appeared and added that upcoming episodes will reveal her secret to John. Rambin knows how John will react when he finds out. But she won't tell us. "You can speculate all you want," Rambin said in an interview earlier this month in Hollywood. "I know. Everybody's playing everybody, so that's all I can say, really." The remaining nine episodes of season two also feature Riley's first big action scene. "I have a big action scene that's my big spotlight, my own action scene," she said. "It was like, 'When am I going to get my own fight?' And I got it in a big way, big way." As for Riley's actual mission, Rambin said viewers already have as much information as they're planning to reveal this season. She reports back to Jesse, but Jesse just gives her vague orders that only Riley would understand. "It's about as clear as it gets. That's about as much as they're going to lay it out for everybody, that she's just there to drive a wedge between Cameron [Summer Glau] and John, because they believe that if he gets too close to the robot that in the future he will befriend robots or not want to fight them or whatever. Some of her interaction with John is her doing what she thinks Jesse wants, and some of them are her actually falling in love with John. So it's just always a struggle for her to kind of do it, but sometimes she cracks and just can't do it." When Rambin first joined the series, she told the press that Riley was just a normal girl entering John Connor's world. It turns out that Rambin knew all along. "Yeah, that was a lie," Rambin admits now. "That's what I was told to say, and that's what it seemed like at first." Who would have wanted to play a normal girl on Terminator anyway? "I knew that that would never happen anyway, so that's not what I was ever expecting. But I have to admit that I was not prepared for all the things that they had in store for me, even some of the stuff that I've done recently. I can't believe I have this role right now. It's a lot more fun than just being some bimbo on some high school 90210 [type show] or something. No offense to them, but I'm just saying. Do they get to kick butt every day? No." Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles returns Feb. 13 and will air in a new timeslot, Fridays at 8 p.m. ET/PT. scifiwire.com/2009/01/terminators-riley-is-she-dead-is-she-back.php#more
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Post by thecolours on Jan 23, 2009 13:02:00 GMT -5
I can't see Riley winning any fight she gets into.
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Post by allergygal on Jan 23, 2009 13:10:33 GMT -5
Well two major bits of info we can take from that:
1) Recent speculation by some of us that Jesse's plan was for Riley to come between John and Sarah is wrong and it's actually the more obvious plot of coming between John and Cameron (either that or Leven is still being kept in the dark on her character's motives).
2) Riley is not the one to die this season. That means Riley either betrays John or leaves John (she's already been betraying him so I think that's a safe choice). And that means Sarah or Cameron die or leave.
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Post by schmacky on Jan 23, 2009 13:42:08 GMT -5
Well two major bits of info we can take from that: 1) Recent speculation by some of us that Jesse's plan was for Riley to come between John and Sarah is wrong and it's actually the more obvious plot of coming between John and Cameron (either that or Leven is still being kept in the dark on her character's motives). Maybe not being kept in the dark, since she never really was... it could be that she's lying, again, to everyone about her character's motives.
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Post by Ronnie on Jan 23, 2009 14:11:37 GMT -5
I think Jesse might be the next one off.
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Post by littleb on Jan 23, 2009 16:55:11 GMT -5
Well two major bits of info we can take from that: 2) Riley is not the one to die this season. That means Riley either betrays John or leaves John (she's already been betraying him so I think that's a safe choice). And that means Sarah or Cameron die or leave. I kinda just read it as she doesn't die from cutting her wrists, but we knew that already. She could still kick the bucket come season end (if we're believing a word Dekker said that is!) I still think Jesse will die. Riley could, I don't see where else her character is going. I'm a little concerned that Sarah could be "killed" in an able to bring back way, which would just be mean if the show then went and got axed and they were never able to resurrect her. That would make me an unhappy bunny and would be pretty cruel in an end of Xena kinda way. But then... <thinks also of Tara in Buffy> all the good girls tend to die.
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Post by allergygal on Jan 23, 2009 17:03:26 GMT -5
I'm inferring Riley not dying this season from this:
That implies there is more of her story to be revealed next season. And why would they reveal the story of a character who was already dead?
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Post by littleb on Jan 23, 2009 17:12:32 GMT -5
I'm inferring Riley not dying this season from this: That implies there is more of her story to be revealed next season. And why would they reveal the story of a character who was already dead? Fair enough. I wondered at that point myself, just thought I'd missed something more obvious! I do hope she sticks around. I like the gal.
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Post by richardstevenhack on Jan 23, 2009 17:19:28 GMT -5
I have to say, this begins to concern me again.
I think her "big action scene" might be a fight with Jesse. Riley could turn on Jesse as a result of falling in love with John and want to stop lying to him.
OTOH, it could be a "fight" with Cameron - I put "fight" in quotes because how is Riley even going to begin to fight Cameron. She's not a Resistance soldier, she's a civilian.
I don't understand the reference to there being more to her mission than what has been revealed. It seems pretty clear what her mission is. How much more to it can there be? In fact, rereading that part, it's not clear to me that it is suggested that there is any more to her mission than that.
What concerns me is that this notion of her possibly surviving the season once again means that either Sarah or Cameron will die - assuming Tom wasn't messing with people's heads again (with or without Josh's orders). And although I've speculated that they could kill Sarah off based on the "Blake's Seven" precedent, the reality is that it's much more likely to be Cameron.
And that way lies madness and the show basically finishing out its run and not being renewed. At least if the character death is indeed intended to be permanent. I really can't see the show surviving the removal of Summer Glau from the cast.
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Post by allergygal on Jan 23, 2009 18:21:40 GMT -5
What concerns me is that this notion of her possibly surviving the season once again means that either Sarah or Cameron will die - assuming Tom wasn't messing with people's heads again (with or without Josh's orders). And although I've speculated that they could kill Sarah off based on the "Blake's Seven" precedent, the reality is that it's much more likely to be Cameron. And that way lies madness and the show basically finishing out its run and not being renewed. At least if the character death is indeed intended to be permanent. I really can't see the show surviving the removal of Summer Glau from the cast. There's just no way they'd kill of Cameron or Sarah permanently. Either one of them could return through time travel. But Cameron coming back from the future is a lot easier to swallow that Sarah having to be pulled from the past, so I'm putting my money on Cameron "dying".
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Post by jaquio on Jan 23, 2009 18:32:37 GMT -5
and hopefully if they go down that route, they dont start cameron all over again. she still needs to have the same chip as old cameron, with the same quirks and memories
but yeah, doing something like that to cameron is very hard to swallow given the disservice to her character this season
also, its bad enough they had to throw the cancer thing out there at the beginning of the season. theres no reason why sarah cant be alive in the future if they do it right. cancer is depressing as all get out
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Post by allergygal on Jan 23, 2009 19:22:32 GMT -5
and hopefully if they go down that route, they dont start cameron all over again. she still needs to have the same chip as old cameron, with the same quirks and memories but yeah, doing something like that to cameron is very hard to swallow given the disservice to her character this season also, its bad enough they had to throw the cancer thing out there at the beginning of the season. theres no reason why sarah cant be alive in the future if they do it right. cancer is depressing as all get out It's certainly within the realm of possibility that she could be destroyed but her chip saved. I can't think of why Sarah or even John would stick a damaged, unpredictable, might-try-to-kill-John-again chip into a new Cameron, though. But even without her old chip, she'd still have all the memories Cameron had prior to jumping to 1999 - future time with John, etc.
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Post by battlejuice on Jan 23, 2009 21:55:38 GMT -5
I'm pretty stoked to see Riley go all crazy and fight whoever.
She's going to have John-Rage. I don't think it'll end well. But I'm kinda getting behind her character now.
Plus, she's a spooky ninja.
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Post by richardstevenhack on Jan 24, 2009 4:07:03 GMT -5
I thought it was interesting that Josh said even though he knows that the time travel stuff is a road to hell, he's still the one who tends to stick that stuff in there.
So I suppose it's possible that they kill Sarah in the present, then, just as they jumped over her cancer death, next season or end of this season they jump over (or back before) her present death. Talk about a serious headfrag.
The same applies to Cameron. If they somehow "kill" Cameron, but keep her chip, or somehow bring Cameron back AGAIN from the future, that's just all wrong in so many ways.
Although I JUST could see some trip where they try and "sort of" kill Cameron, except she already knew about it in advance in the future and manages some time travel nonsense where she beats the attempt. The whole thing could somehow be tied into her hidden agenda. I can't imagine how any of that would be done, but who knows how devious Josh is.
I'm still saying Josh is gonna have to pull a serious rabbit out of the hat to deal with killing off either character. And that rabbit could VERY quickly turn into a jumped shark if he's not careful.
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Post by littleb on Jan 24, 2009 9:17:34 GMT -5
I really can't see the show surviving the removal of Summer Glau from the cast. Naw, who the hell would they put on the blog?! I don't think any of the main four are dying permanently. Sounds like a plan. Someone I think already mentioned Sarah "betraying" John by offing Cameron which would fit. Cam is the easiest death to write around, they could acquire a new, less faulty model, y'know, one that didn't just choose to override her Terminate Leader of Future command. It's a pretty easy reset to get around. Maybe John kills her himself and it's all sad and it sets all the shippers off a'flutterin'. The other thing that might lead away from a Sarah-death-cliffhanger is Earthlings, which has been there 'n' just done that. Hmm, but then they blew up Cameron already as well. Dammit, I hate thinking up a theory then ruining it in the next breath! Can we not just go back to killing Jesse?
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