Where in the future is John?

[kattracy]

Does anyone have any idea exactly where in time they jumped to?
I'm new to this......happy to be here! kat

[rossbondreturns]

They jumped into a future where John is not a leader of the Human Resistance or even known.

Judging by the fact that they though John himself might be a machine skynet in this future is hyper advanced. Probably because humans aren't bringing a consolidated fight to them.

Since Derek, and Kyle and Allison are alive it seems to be prior to 2027.

This is JMHO.

[kattracy]

Thanks RBR for the response. I get you however, is it that John is not yet born or is it that the future has changed? If it is that John is not yet born, then why is Cameron young and human? Is it assumed that she has been Metal for a very long time, because I thought John had fallen in love with her in later years bofore she was metal?....kat from CA, Computer Science Lab, Stanford Research Institute....

[rossbondreturns]

No basically John is born however he jumped over Judgment Day. Never rose up to lead the Resistance.

And because of that Skynet has developed FANTASTICALLY realistic Terminators.

Humans have formed a Resistance of sorts and are holding their own against Skynet but I think that humanity is doing even worse than they were doing before.

So John will be in the Future for awhile...get Camerons chip back. And travel back to the Present.

Live through Judgment Day and grow up to lead the Resistance.

That would possibly mean that John is going to become a Man out of "Time" as well depending oh how the writers think of their time travel.

[vicheron]

It has to be after 2023 since the earliest possible time Allison could have been born would be in 2008 and she can't be younger than 15 years old.

[Dyson]

The writers opened up a big ole can of time travel enigma. They need be very careful with this one to avoid getting stupid with the story and timeline. Kyle is there so he obvioulsy hasn't travelled back to sire John and die in 1983 yet. The friendship between future John and Kyle is key to Kyle going back to 1983 in the first place. John chasing after Cameron's chip and changing the timeline so there is no John Connor leading the resistance effectively prevented himself from being born in the first place. Yet there he is; a naked coat theif in a grim future.

Like Marty McFly fading when he got to the point of actually preventing his parents from hooking up for life.

That's my initial thoughts anyways. No doubt they will evolve over the many long Summer months of theorizing ahead of us. I'm looking forward to it.

[JET_Fusion]

I can't imagine how John is going to get Cameron's chip back. For one, John Henry certainly is not going to willingly relenquish his chip (right, self-termination and all). Second, John Henry is now in the body of a triple 888, which is going to be hard to stop without help. Third, unless Weaver continues to look-after or help him, how is John ever going to FIND John Henry? Finally, how is he ever going to convince the members of the resistance he's important?

I can't wait for Season 3!!!!

---JET_Fusion

[gulde]

Cameron pretended 16 years old girl, and she was modeled on Allison Young's body, so Allison should be also 16 years old. Her mother was pregnant with her in 2008, so its should be in 2024. Simple .

[allergygal]

I've assumed John landed in 2026 or 2027 because of Allison, but I lean towards 2027. That's the year we've been focused on in all future scenes since the series began, so I think it makes sense for the story to pick up there in the future. And I remember reading way back that Josh Friedman had originally mapped out 4 seasons of the show, taking it to the currently known 2011 judgement day. So far, future scenes have all been flashbacks until John's arrival. Now that he's there, the future can play out in real time as well and if he's in 2027, two more seasons would take it to... 2029 — the year everything began in T1.

[gulde]

Aye, that makes sense also, that years 2027-2029 are important in series (or more precisely 2027 in TSCC, 2029 in T1 and T2), but then there is a little "bug" with that Allison's age .

[allergygal]

Jul 19, 2009 18:32:39 GMT -5 gulde said:

Aye, that makes sense also, that years 2027-2029 are important in series (or more precisely 2027 in TSCC, 2029 in T1 and T2), but then there is a little "bug" with that Allison's age .

I don't think there's a bug with Allison's age. The present time John jumped from was 2009 so he's 17 going on 18 in Born to Run. If Allison was born in early 2008, that would make Allison her only a year older than him and I think Cameron was always playing a year older than John (she already had a driver's license when John was only 15 in Gnothi Seauton).

[gulde]

Yes, but they said, that Cameron pretends 16 years old girl, so Allison must have been 16, when Cameron killed her. Anyway, whatever, it doesn't matter, if she is 16, or 18...we really need a 3.season, to figure out in what year is John & CW.

[allergygal]

Alternate future, though. Without John Connor as the leader of the resistance, there may never have been a need to kill Allison and create Cameron.

[gulde]

Maybe, maybe...but as I said, we can discuss about tons of possible speculations, but without 3. season, we can't never reach a definite and right answer for that .