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Post by goober on Mar 18, 2008 23:57:55 GMT -5
Can someone try to explain how Cameron can eat food? Like where does it go, is there an internal food processor and if so where does the waste go?
it might sound odd but i dont recall seeing a cyborg ever get shot in the stomach and then have internals spill out.
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Post by Big Brother on Mar 19, 2008 7:16:48 GMT -5
There are two main theories for this...
1.) There's some sort of small pouch attached to the tube leading down from the mouth, enabling small amounts of food to be eaten and later regurgitated. This can be useful for an infiltrator, if eating or drinking is needed to continue to masquerade as a human.
2.) Terminators are, after all, LIVING tissue over a metal endoskeleton. Living tissue is alive, and thus needs food and water. So Terminators in general probably have some sort of rudimentary digestive, respiratory, and excretory system to supply their living tissue with sustenance and oxygen, and to remove metabolic wastes. They probably don't have full lungs, but rather some sort of pump mechanism. That "synthetic blood" lacking red blood cells actually makes sense, as red blood cells are made in bone marrow, which metal endoskeletons notably lack. So something like the "oxygen-carrying spear" mentioned in "The Turk" does duty in place of red blood cells, oxygenated in some sort of biomechanical device and pumped to the tissue sheath by mechanical means (which may even do so in spurts to simulate a pulse). They probably have some sort of abbreviated digestive system, such as a small stomach and short intestine, crammed into available spaces in the abdomen, and excreting as usual (genetalia and related orifices exist, or Vick wouldn't have been able to keep up the pretense for very long while married). Kidneys are also likely replaced by equivalent biomechanical filter systems.
Either way, the fact that Terminators can eat one corn chip or a single bite of pancakes (all we've seen her eat so far) is hardly surprising.
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Post by rossbondreturns on Mar 19, 2008 19:19:25 GMT -5
In fact in the Treatment for The Terminator james Cameron has Terminator eat a Milky Way Candy Bar wrapper and all to try and stop the deteriation of his skins failure. One must assume that Infiltrators on long term missions must eat to keep their skin alive.
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Post by Derek Reese on Mar 20, 2008 11:44:47 GMT -5
Both Big Brother and Ross seem to note similar yet different facts, that work exceptionally well towards the mythos at hand.
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Post by vicheron on Mar 20, 2008 20:43:53 GMT -5
Either way, the fact that Terminators can eat one corn chip or a single bite of pancakes (all we've seen her eat so far) is hardly surprising. I don't know, that's still three times as much food as the average supermodel eats every day.
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Post by Derek Reese on Mar 22, 2008 23:16:28 GMT -5
True, but we don't know the amount of food, that they require to keep the skin intact. Suppose it could very little from what we've seen since it's modified human flesh.
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Post by goober on Mar 25, 2008 0:59:06 GMT -5
True, but we don't know the amount of food, that they require to keep the skin intact. Suppose it could very little from what we've seen since it's modified human flesh. obviously not using "dove" products then
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Post by Derek Reese on Mar 25, 2008 2:08:27 GMT -5
lol Good one. Karma for that.
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Post by Lady S on Mar 31, 2008 12:49:06 GMT -5
When I saw it, I figured that they're trying to show how human she is to leave it open so that down the line they could play with a relationship bewteen her and John...if they wanted.
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Post by t101 on Mar 31, 2008 17:00:38 GMT -5
More interesting is why she ate the pancake. It's like she wanted to challenge Derek. Obviously there there is something going on in that chip of hers, a mindless machine should not care.
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Post by rossbondreturns on Mar 31, 2008 17:29:30 GMT -5
Who's to say she's mindless...I am positing that in my script the T-X has a limited Self Learning A.I. CPU.
Could be that Cameron is developing feelings...
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Post by k8ie on Mar 31, 2008 23:36:05 GMT -5
From a purely structuralist point of view, I think it's too early in TSCC for Cameron to be developing feelings. What caught me is the mirror between the scene with Derek and the scene with John - there's an implicit challenge to Cameron's nature in both scenes that she responds to by eating.
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Post by t101 on Apr 1, 2008 4:15:03 GMT -5
Who's to say she's mindless.... Not me. Like I said those little things are proof that she isn't. I think it's a matter of pacing. Her challenging Derek like that could be seen as an emotional response of sorts.
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Post by cyadon on Jul 31, 2008 12:05:37 GMT -5
For eating purposes, there was a scene as far back as the original T1 (and again in T3, which isn't canon, but...) where Ah-nuld sucks down a candy bar in one bite. That hit the cutting room floor, but it was meant to show (according to Jim Cameron) that the machine had to nourish its biological covering somehow.
In T3 they were going to have Arnie selecting his favorite Austrian wafers off the shelf (for himself) of the quickie-mart where he stocks up on food for Kate and John and that hit the cutting room floor, too.
In the novelization and according to Jim Cameron there's a small storage section build into the endoskeleton for a small heart, lungs, and other things. The organs were about the same size as a chicken's from what I remember.
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Post by soph on Jul 31, 2008 13:44:08 GMT -5
well she's supposed to be advanced-maybe the food is kinda like extra biofuel for energy? ?
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