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Allison
Sept 30, 2008 0:23:30 GMT -5
Post by Derek Reese on Sept 30, 2008 0:23:30 GMT -5
Discuss the facts about Allison and her situation within canon and her possible relationship to the cast here.
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Allison
Sept 30, 2008 6:19:58 GMT -5
Post by richardstevenhack on Sept 30, 2008 6:19:58 GMT -5
At this point, we have "zip" to go on. All we have is the Caminator's one statement that Allison was "chosen" by Connor. But we don't know for what - other than being a member of Connor's HQ party.
Hopefully we'll find out exactly what her function is in the Resistance. Is it something personal with future John - she's a girl friend? - or does she have some significant function in the resistance - say, Terminator reprogrammer or time machine engineer?
Clearly she was important enough that the Caminator thought that it would not only get her into Connor's camp, but possibly close to Connor himself. And clearly that was the Caminator's mission - kill Connor, despite the "peace" line she fed Allison.
Equally clearly, that mission failed, and undoubtedly led to Cameron's being captured and reprogrammed. I wonder if we will see some of what her mission was and how she was captured, if not the actual reprogramming or her later connections with John - since I don't think we'll ever see anything specific about future John.
I would expect that, since the object of all this is to reveal Cameron's origins and agenda, that we will see Allison again in the future, in a flashback before she is killed, to explain why she was "chosen."
This will of course give Summer the chance to strut her stuff as an actress by playing both parts again. Josh knows he's got a dynamite actress here that everybody is crazy about, and he's going to use her a lot to tell this story about the future as well as to boost the show's ratings.
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Allison
Sept 30, 2008 9:01:14 GMT -5
Post by tzigone on Sept 30, 2008 9:01:14 GMT -5
I really did like Allison. She was great. Brave and loyal. I'm interested to know exactly what she was chosen for (I doubt they were talking about regular army, here). I like seeing the people who fought for John Connor, for humanity.
I didn't get the impression of a deeply personal relationship, but we had very little to go on. I was kind of taking her as representative of the type of person he chose for this mission. Certainly if there was a romantic relationship, it wasn't referenced by Cameron. I do think Allison knew John Connor personally, and not just from really afar. Is part of a particular group that he's interacted with, chosen for something. But I didn't think that was unique to her. Also, she's 19 when she dies (at latest), and he's about 43, so that also makes a romantic entanglement less likely (though not impossible, of course), and indicates that if there was one, it hadn't been going on for a long length of time.
As much as I like Allison, I don't really want to see a lot more of her. Enough to find out what the plan was. But I, personally, would prefer to keep the show mostly in the present.
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Allison
Sept 30, 2008 15:58:16 GMT -5
Post by vicheron on Sept 30, 2008 15:58:16 GMT -5
I think that it's more likely for Allison to be John's adopted daughter than his love interest. That would explain why Cameron knows so much about John's childhood. I can imagine John reading "The Wizard of Oz" to Allison and telling her that Sarah used to read it to him when he was young.
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Post by timstuff on Oct 1, 2008 0:49:33 GMT -5
I think that it's more likely for Allison to be John's adopted daughter than his love interest. That would explain why Cameron knows so much about John's childhood. I can imagine John reading "The Wizard of Oz" to Allison and telling her that Sarah used to read it to him when he was young. Taking that idea a step further, could we speculate that the reason John took Allison under his wing is because she reminds him of Cameron, who was very important to him during his adolescence? If by some tragedy Cameron and John get separated (which will probably be the case if this show is serving as a lead in to Judgment Day), then when John finally meets Allison, the experience would likely be akin to meeting one's long lost daughter for the first time, on a subconscious level at least. Then when he captures Cameron, he sends her back in time to be with his younger self, thus completing the loop. However, if a loop is not in play, someone at the official wiki had an interesting idea: what if Allison's parents end up getting killed in the present day, and Cameron ends up "adopting" Allison as a means for atonement? Yeah, that would be pretty wild, but also if Cameron and John end up having a relationship of some kind, adopting Allison would be the most plausible way for them to have a child. Just some interesting thoughts to chew over.
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Post by vicheron on Oct 1, 2008 1:09:50 GMT -5
It's a good idea but it would be too much like John's relationship with Kyle Reese. I don't know if the writers of the show would want to cover the same ground as the new movie.
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Post by timstuff on Oct 1, 2008 1:34:16 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if the new movie burgles numerous brownies (of the non-edible variety), so the writers of TSCC can cover whatever territory they want IMO.
Also, we don't know what the writers are planning to do for this show's ending. Are they going to end with Judgment day like Terminator 3, or are they going to end with Judgment Day being prevented, like Terminator 2 was once believed to be?
Keep things constructive in here and please keep your posts respectful and less obscene.
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Post by richardstevenhack on Oct 2, 2008 1:06:42 GMT -5
I doubt there will be any "time loop" between Allison and Cameron from present to future. I think Allison was who she was and Cameron was modeled after her and that's it. Now the story will become about Cameron, not Allison, except in so far as she is needed to tell the back story about Cameron.
I still think Josh is focused completely on Cameron as a machine living in the present and John and Cameron coping with each other. If you assume Cameron has a mission other than merely being another Terminator sent back by John to protect his younger self - and I think at this point that's a given that there is more to Cameron than a rehash of "Uncle Bob" - then Cameron becomes fifty percent of the show.
I also think it will be mostly irrelevant who Cameron was to John in the future, except maybe to flesh out who Cameron is NOW and why she came back. I've long suspected that Cameron was John's "wife" - or "girl friend" or "confidante" - whatever term you like - in the future. But I don't think that's even relevant any more. It's more likely that what matters is the reason Cameron came back and what she intends to do NOW to alter the future for her - and probably John's - benefit.
That's a story that can be open-ended and extremely interesting, whereas merely establishing that she's "something" in the future isn't so interesting, since the show is set in the present, except to the degree that you can show that future developing, as we see with John's slow progression to being future John.
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