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Post by thecolours on Mar 21, 2009 16:10:01 GMT -5
Apparently, Cameron's big secret is actually a problem she is having with her glitch. How do you know this?
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Post by Alexis on Mar 21, 2009 16:21:04 GMT -5
Slightly different version of the promo. www.fox.com/fod/play.php?sh=tscc&ep=1236991268995I think this is the episode, where we find out what happened to Derek in the basement. It would make sense that topic would come up since Cameron and Derek form a truce to work together. Also, I think after the "You can't kill me." "I can try" exchange, Cameron will reveal her big secret to Derek. Possible the basement scene, and her big secret are connected. You read my mind, thecolours. I was about to express the same idea. I think that Charley or Ellison have equal possibilities to be the one who say goodbye in this episode. Sarah doesn't trust anyone now, neither Cameron nor Derek, but she will put her trust in Charley, a good guy indeed, but also a guy who has been defeated by a 16 years old boy... So... I wonder... Who's going to protect who? Sarah is a smart woman but, honestly, putting John's safety in Charley's hands doesn't seem one of her greatest ideas... So, I think it's most probable that Charley end up dead by trying to protect John from the highly anticipated Skynet attack. Poor Charley... By the way, some months ago I said that I thought that Sarah might leave John because of her illness. Maybe looking for some treatment and because of what Cameron told her. Maybe she wouldn't want to be an extra weight on his shoulders (taking into account he already carry the weight of the world's survival). More than ever, there's a big storm coming.
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Post by Hollow Crown on Mar 21, 2009 16:22:54 GMT -5
I seen it on IMDB, but now I'm having a hard time pin pointing exactly which thread I found it in.
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Post by k8ie on Mar 21, 2009 16:29:58 GMT -5
Man, next week's preview had me pumped. Oh man. I can't wait. I noticed the shot of Sarah running through the jungle. Oh man! Sweet! Cause I love the scene in the 5th episode of season 1 of her trekking through Central America. And the voice over and the shot of a young John playing chess. Cool. Charley with a gun. Oh oh oh. Derek and Cam working alone together? Wow... lol We'll just have to see how that gets played out. And apparently, we've got Sarah lying on the floor while a guy in a delivery uniform kicks open the door, Derek getting tasered and Cameron running after a panel van... John's wearing the same outfit in "Adam Raised a Cain" as in "To the Lighthouse"... What if Sarah gets grabbed up at the end of this episode? Who's going to protect who? Sarah is a smart woman but, honestly, putting John's safety in Charley's hands doesn't seem one of her greatest ideas... ::a) I don't think it's John's safety that is Sarah's primary concern - given the conversation in TITD1 about Future!John's isolation, I think Sarah takes John to Charley (apart from separating him from lying Derek and glitchy Cameron) to reunite John with the only other person, possibly the only person, who loves John purely for himself. Sarah's always wanted to shield John from not just physical but emotional and psychological harm. If Sarah believes that she's dying, lacklustre robot fighter or not, who's she going to entrust to see her 16-year-old son to manhood? Who's she going to trust to hold him the next time he's hurting, to ensure that John doesn't merely grow up but grows up to be a good man, to see that his innate compassion doesn't get crushed under the weight of future responsibilities? Not Derek and not Cameron. Ergo, Charley.
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Post by Hollow Crown on Mar 21, 2009 16:35:56 GMT -5
Something tells me Cameron will be kidnapped by Ziera (sp?) Corp in this episode.
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Post by k8ie on Mar 21, 2009 16:42:07 GMT -5
Cameron's with John in the next episode, so that seems unlikely to me. Not impossible but she's also the one that breaks through the fence and chases the van. Also, Zeira Corp doesn't know Cameron's a robot. They'd have no reason to take her... yet.
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Post by Hollow Crown on Mar 21, 2009 16:43:34 GMT -5
That's true. Very good point.
This is the episode where she also gets the taser, right?
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Post by k8ie on Mar 21, 2009 16:49:03 GMT -5
I think so. Although it seems to be Derek who's tasered and Cameron gets electrocuted, although that would only buy them 120 seconds... Also, would a taser do it? The last two times they shocked a terminator, they used power right wired into the grid. Anything that stuns a human, metal should shrug off, right?
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Post by Hollow Crown on Mar 21, 2009 16:55:26 GMT -5
I haven't seen that preview in a long time, but I thought it was a taser. The reason a taser would be effective on Cameron is because she's drenched in water at the time.
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Post by t101 on Mar 21, 2009 16:56:56 GMT -5
If Derek is tasered this hints that he's the one kidnapped.
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Post by Alexis on Mar 21, 2009 17:58:03 GMT -5
I don't think it's John's safety that is Sarah's primary concern - given the conversation in TITD1 about Future!John's isolation, I think Sarah takes John to Charley (apart from separating him from lying Derek and glitchy Cameron) to reunite John with the only other person, possibly the only person, who loves John purely for himself. Sarah's always wanted to shield John from not just physical but emotional and psychological harm. If Sarah believes that she's dying, lacklustre robot fighter or not, who's she going to entrust to see her 16-year-old son to manhood? Who's she going to trust to hold him the next time he's hurting, to ensure that John doesn't merely grow up but grows up to be a good man, to see that his innate compassion doesn't get crushed under the weight of future responsibilities? Not Derek and not Cameron. Ergo, Charley. All good points, K8ie. Anyway, I didn't question Sarah's motivations here. I agree with you regarding your vision of Sarah's perspective on the situation, but I was actually referring to the consequences of her decision. Her motivations might be clear enough and her intentions might be the best for John, but what I tried to say before is that the boy needs a protector more than a spiritual guidance due to the urgent circumstances of having some killer robots from the future trying to kill him at any time. So, Sarah's intentions might be good and noble, but the consequences of her decision might not be good since he'll be away of the only person/machine that could effectively protect him from Skynet's attacks. That's a tactical mistake, IMO, that might result in Charley's dead.
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Post by k8ie on Mar 21, 2009 18:38:51 GMT -5
If Derek is tasered this hints that he's the one kidnapped. Yeah, it does but I'm not quite sure why someone would take Derek.
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Post by aceplace57 on Mar 21, 2009 19:42:09 GMT -5
Perhaps a group of crazed Amazon Women? Brian's smile can do that.
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Post by VALIANT CHAMPION on Mar 21, 2009 21:40:51 GMT -5
I am a bit late to this spoiler discussion. My take on Sarah's actions are not good. She is making the same mistake she told John not to make with Riley.
And why does Sarah feel like she has to DEAL with Cameron when her glitch is rectifying itself.
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Post by samuel95 on Mar 21, 2009 22:10:29 GMT -5
I'm missing something here -- what makes you think the glitch is rectifying itself?
Her left hand was twitching away last night. Also, Sarah destroyed the spare left hand last night. At least I think that was a lefty she tossed into the fire. We're not even sure the bird survived.
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