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Post by vicheron on Sept 17, 2008 12:48:46 GMT -5
Still really doesn't make sense to me. If you take our group out of the equasion the plant would have melted down. No one would have known Greenway was the one who caused it. The ones he killed would never be found because their bodies would have been destroyed. They only would be unaccounted for. That one guy who was in the control room and saw Greenway do nothing to stop the meltdown probably got out of the plant. But considering the destruction this meltdown would cause he would never get far away enough in time. A meltdown would not destroy the bodies. In fact, American nuclear plants are designed so that they don't go Chernobyl in case of a meltdown. American reactors are housed in concrete containment structures that can withstand a huge amount of pressure. Even if containment is breached, only massive doses of radiation and radioactive materials will be released, nothing that can destroy the bodies or stop people from getting away. It seems likely that Terminator Greenway never intended for the reactor to meltdown. The plant was already in trouble. If the real Greenway had never been replaced then there was a good chance that the plant was going to get shut down. Like I said before, if anything went wrong with the test then the problem will be attributed to the power plant and it would get shut down. When Terminator Greenway tried to cause a meltdown, he shifted blame for the power plant's problems away from design and construction flaws to Greenway. The whole plan was to keep the power plant open.
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Post by supernatural66 on Sept 17, 2008 17:53:18 GMT -5
Just a few thoughts about this week's epi
1. I liked Riley- a light hearted person to be a bright light of normalcy for a brief time in John's life. This is a good thing. It won't last- but he needs someone who doesn't expect anything of him for a while.. I am looking forward to seeing this play out.
2. Cameron- back in action but still a little off her game....am wondering how much is the bent chip , how much is her working on processing things.
3. Charlie- you know his wife is gonna be his sacrifice before he completely joins the fight.....the others Ellis, Charlie - dealing with the future holds a lot of good storytelling promise.
4. Derek- not enough Derek last pm. But he was great driving the big black truck.
5. Sarah and the power plant- wow! The whole arc with the mystery about the plant and who controls it now vs then and the twist at the end revealing that the machines not only are here for John but they have a plan. Revealing these details without having to explicitly spell it out is good storytelling.
Allow the story to provide the narrative without having it thrown at us. This season is shaping up into the hard science science fiction I love- quickly building the solid us against the machines combined with how do we live our lives that is seen on only one other series-and that is BSG. I can give no higher praise than to say this- BSG is the show to set the bar for modern science fiction television and Terminator is the first show to really challenge this mark. I am ready for Fox to pair Sarah with the Sunday comedies so that it can get the ratings it deserves now!
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Post by watchman on Sept 17, 2008 18:14:22 GMT -5
Did anyone else think that Dekker sounded alot like Christian Bale at times, especially when he was talking to Riley about moving house? It was a little bizarre lol considering the casting choice for the next movie.
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Post by cyadon on Sept 17, 2008 19:01:13 GMT -5
I just watched it again and I noticed, after defeating the T-Greenway, Cameron as she's walking back towards Sarah is twitching back and forth slightly. Head is jerky and movements just a bit off.
Yeah, she's definitely still messed up.
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Post by alexina on Sept 17, 2008 20:43:35 GMT -5
Loved this episode! My favorite part? Cartoons! Hurray! That was a damn cute squirrel, and I loved how Cameron was watching intently. ;D Lots of other cool stuff too. Riley is a great new character. I think she brings some light to the Connor household. (John's room is amazing! lol) And Busy's character looks be pretty interesting as well. Bear's music was awesome in this ep. Then I read his blog, and it made it even more awesomer. That is great that he got his brother to record one of the songs that played in the bar! Oh, and I liked seeing a little piece of the future snuck in there. Nice touch. In the words of Borat, "Very niiiiice!" Great Sarah stuff in this episode. And you know, I don't mind the cancer stuff as much as I thought I would. I think I sort-of groaned at the idea when it was first mentioned in season 1, mainly because I didn't like it T3, but now...I don't know. I think it's interesting the way they're presenting it on the show. It forces Sarah to really come to face the fact that she will not always be there for John, and that she must trust that - when she dies - she has taught him everything he needs to know to survive and be the future leader of mankind. The interesting part, for me, is seeing her fret over this - struggling with wanting to keep her innocent boy, while knowing that time is short and he needs to grow up soon and fast. Anyway, overall, another great ep!
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Post by traitorsgate on Sept 17, 2008 21:37:01 GMT -5
I just watched it again and I noticed, after defeating the T-Greenway, Cameron as she's walking back towards Sarah is twitching back and forth slightly. Head is jerky and movements just a bit off. Yeah, she's definitely still messed up. I have to say Summer Glau's ongoing performance as a Terminator is the single strongest highlight of this series. As of now she's probably racked up more screen time as a machine than any previous actor, including the Guv. As a result her performance has grown into a very layered yet subtle character study. In the early episodes it did at times seem a little forced and stilted. However she's now bringing a raft of nuances to the role that you often miss first time round. Whenever people look for sound bites to show an actor in a particular role they often go for the big melodramatic scenes which at times can be a little clichéd. The true test of an actor is the ability to bring a character to life without hiding behind some big dramatic speech or set piece, but rather be able to connect with an audience through body language and subtle changes in speech tones. If you watch Summer Glau playing Cameron you can see that she's constantly communicating with the camera - ergo you the audience, and yet she often has very little dialogue to work with.
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Post by cyadon on Sept 17, 2008 21:59:06 GMT -5
I just watched it again and I noticed, after defeating the T-Greenway, Cameron as she's walking back towards Sarah is twitching back and forth slightly. Head is jerky and movements just a bit off. Yeah, she's definitely still messed up. I have to say Summer Glau's ongoing performance as a Terminator is the single strongest highlight of this series. As of now she's probably racked up more screen time as a machine than any previous actor, including the Guv. As a result her performance has grown into a very layered yet subtle character study. In the early episodes it did at times seem a little forced and stilted. However she's now bringing a raft of nuances to the role that you often miss first time round. Whenever people look for sound bites to show an actor in a particular role they often go for the big melodramatic scenes which at times can be a little clichéd. The true test of an actor is the ability to bring a character to life without hiding behind some big dramatic speech or set piece, but rather be able to connect with an audience through body language and subtle changes in speech tones. If you watch Summer Glau playing Cameron you can see that she's constantly communicating with the camera - ergo you the audience, and yet she often has very little dialogue to work with. I definitely agree. What's funny? I didn't even like Firefly that much and always thought she was really mouse-y back then. God, was I wrong. Turns out she is, in fact, one of the most beautiful women on TV (and I mean a woman, not a Barbie doll -- part of why I'm not so fond of Leven Rambin... I live in Dallas where I see that bleached blonde xerox copy every day on the street and it's still so overdone), and one of the most quietly intelligent and talented actors I've seen. She's amazing with how much thought and effort she has put into this role after watching her interviews. Everything is body language and is so well done. The highlight of this episode (which I still think is not that great, but it's growing on me as I watch it each time) is her portrayal of Cameron. She really does a marvelous job in the bar and talking to Sarah and watching the cartoon video and everything else she did. I think I consider this episode better than 1x04 Heavy Metal now, but not by that huge a margin. And it's only Cameron and Sarah that make it that way. Derek was nonexistant and John was petulant. And Riley still bores me.
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Post by k8ie on Sept 18, 2008 12:33:34 GMT -5
I really liked the injury continuity from S&D. Last season, I thought how Sarah's shoulder wound and Derek's sucking chest wound were handled was a weak point - seeing Sarah and John banged up and moving slowly was not only a great metaphor for the emotional hits they took last week and the lingering damage to their relationship but I think it's a great way of establishing and marking narrative time.
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Post by Ronnie on Sept 19, 2008 11:11:56 GMT -5
So has anyone figured out how the title "Automatic for the People" refers to the Episode?
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Post by jen22 on Sept 19, 2008 11:48:32 GMT -5
I would say it fits the very end of the episode. Take the title literally. At the end people were replaced by automatics. Hence 'Automatic for (the) People'.
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Post by Ronnie on Sept 19, 2008 12:00:49 GMT -5
I would say it fits the very end of the episode. Take the title literally. At the end people were replaced by automatics. Hence 'Automatic for (the) People'. That was my only guess, the Automation aspect of the plants. Other than that I couldn't think of anything.
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Post by Erika on Sept 19, 2008 14:04:25 GMT -5
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Post by ReeseDN38416 on Sept 21, 2008 2:23:09 GMT -5
It's been a while since I watched the episode. It was ok, but a little disjointed. I liked the working class/honky tonk settings in this episode. Very Terminator. I loved the plant worker guy that Sarah flirts with. That actor did a fantastic job. He's the most impressed I've been with a guest star since Andy. I liked revisiting Sarah's anxiety about her cancer. Cameron's reply was interesting when Sarah frantically asked her about the future. This cast has such wonderful chemistry with each other. I loved Sarah/Cameron in this episode. Their chemistry crackles. I like the way the cover story for their injuries was woven into the episode. I smiled and giggled a bit at that. I liked Riley. I felt that it was a bit of goading rebellion on John's part to get a rise out of Sarah a bit. But also he liked Riley and so did I. She seemed like a nice chatty oasis for John to rest near for a while. I don't see anything deep happening between them. I liked her teasing call near the end of the episode. "Just testing." I hated the reveal of Shirley Manson at the end of the episode. It would have had a lot more power if the guy had really been human. The fact that the plant was going automated was chilling enough without the cheesy transformation. Sarah, Derek and Cameron radiated death and danger when they were looking at the new house. I don't know how they did it but... they did. Bye, bye Charlie! I'll miss him. *sigh* I don't know how I feel about all the religious references. I liked that Derek said he was praying though. That made me laugh. I love Derek/Sarah scenes. Cameron in the pool hall was so much fun. It was a good episode. There were moments that were amazingly good... mostly between Sarah and the guest star. But the episode was just good. Not great.
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Post by allergygal on Sept 22, 2008 18:01:49 GMT -5
The highlight of this episode (which I still think is not that great, but it's growing on me as I watch it each time) is her portrayal of Cameron. She really does a marvelous job in the bar and talking to Sarah and watching the cartoon video and everything else she did. I think I consider this episode better than 1x04 Heavy Metal now, but not by that huge a margin. And it's only Cameron and Sarah that make it that way. Derek was nonexistant and John was petulant. And Riley still bores me. I wish I could loan you my eyes so you could view this episode through them. It was good on so many levels. Some of the power plant story is certainly nitpick-worthy, but there was so much to love... Everything with Riley Landlord / Sarah contrast Sarah tries to relax and 3 seconds later a future soldier busts in Watching John say "we're moving" Sarah getting in Derek's face about killing Sarah and Cameron watching the power plant cartoon "car accident" Sarah at the bar Cameron at the bar Sarah and John confrontation about Riley Derek's fear of radiation Sarah and Cameron cancer / time bomb conversation
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