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Post by Erika on Aug 4, 2008 18:38:08 GMT -5
So going on the big spoiler that John Wirth let out at Comic Con, who do you think bites the big one and why?
You can only vote once so make it count!
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k8ie
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Post by k8ie on Aug 4, 2008 19:49:02 GMT -5
I was wondering when the actual death pool was gonna start (grabs SWAT gear and jumps in).
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Post by Deep Art Frummy on Aug 4, 2008 20:34:02 GMT -5
Agent Ellison.
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Post by allergygal on Aug 4, 2008 23:57:05 GMT -5
I vote Cromartie.
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Post by Derek Reese on Aug 5, 2008 0:00:27 GMT -5
Voting Artie as well after watching the new trailer.
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toyo
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Post by toyo on Aug 5, 2008 0:11:04 GMT -5
Dear god let it be Riley! So Cameron can comfort a broken hearted John
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Post by Derek Reese on Aug 5, 2008 0:14:18 GMT -5
I thought Riley wasn't on the panel. Josh said that it was someone amongst them at the Comic Con panel.
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Post by schmacky0 on Aug 5, 2008 0:19:40 GMT -5
Well I DON'T think it's Riley, Charley or his wife because they weren't on the panel. My vote is Cromartie.
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Post by Derek Reese on Aug 5, 2008 0:22:21 GMT -5
It pretty much comes down to the top 7, which is a pretty high target list.
I keep debating it, but I'm staying with Artie too.
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Post by smacky on Aug 5, 2008 9:57:40 GMT -5
I just hope they don't kill Sarah... But the name would change then...or not...Just hope that.! I vote Ellison.
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Post by Erika on Aug 5, 2008 11:58:01 GMT -5
Well I DON'T think it's Riley, Charley or his wife because they weren't on the panel. My vote is Cromartie. I thought it would be fun to throw in some curve balls
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traitorsgate
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This is Cam. She's trained for an Off-World kick murder squad. Talk about Beauty and the Beast.
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Post by traitorsgate on Aug 5, 2008 21:55:56 GMT -5
Righto, I voted for Cameron. Yes I know that this scenario is highly unlikely and there are more than a few people who will proclaim that TSCC is nothing without Cameron/Summer Glau. That may or may not be true, personally I believe such a statement is selling the other actors short, to say nothing of the writers. The reasoning behind my unpopular choice is nothing to do with the writers but rather Summer Glau herself.
Few people would argue that the character of Cameron has thus far been the standout scene stealer of the series. Now assuming the second series continues to improve on what was set in place with the last few episodes of the first series, and doesn't make the fatal error of slipping back into the sort of teeny bopper melodrama that stifled some of the earlier episodes then TSCC will likely go from being a 'Breakout Hit' to becoming a bona fide ratings big hitter. With that, Summer Glau's star will definitely be on the rise. Now this represents a double edged sword for her. If she's happy simply working on TV then good luck to her and let's hope we see her in a variety of different series for years to come. If however she wants to make a genuine concerted effort in breaking into feature films then she needs to distance herself from being typecast as Cameron. Granted much of the stigma that was once associated with working on TV has slipped by the wayside but there is still a resistance to casting in high profile TV actors into feature films. Yes I know there are always exceptions.
So lets assume the second series is a huge hit and FOX signs off on a third it's here where Summer Glau will face a decision on the future of her career. There has always been a school of thought that suggests that TV Sci-Fi can be a career dead end for many actors who get comfortable in a long running role. So if she does want to spread her wings then she needs to disassociate herself from Cameron sooner rather than later otherwise she'll run the risk of people not being able to distinguish between the character and the actor.
Now let me make one thing clear I'm not some die hard Summer Glau, TSCC fan, I am a fan of good acting though. I've seen more than enough from Summer Glau in the last couple of years to convince me that she is genuinely talented, far more so than the vast majority of high profile actresses I could name.
Let me leave you with this thought, the other week I dusted off my DVD of the Steven Shainberg film Secretary starring James Spader and Maggie Gyllenhaal. Every time I watch this film I'm amazed at the 'tightrope' performance of Gyllenhaal in a role that sooo easily could have blown up in her face. It got me thinking what other actress could best emote both verbally and physically the emotional and physical vulnerability of the character of Lee Holloway while at the same time being able to express a sense of strength and control in a relationship that on face value was highly exploitive of her emotional and physical desires? While there would be any number of stage actors who could, the only actress that I could put a name to a face who I believe could pull it off was Summer Glau. So I guess it's this desire to see Summer Glau try and tackle some very difficult 'edgy' roles that would have me killing off Cameron at the end of season 2 of TSCC in order to free up Summer Glau.
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Post by Deep Art Frummy on Aug 5, 2008 22:19:50 GMT -5
Righto, I voted for Cameron. Yes I know that this scenario is highly unlikely and there are more than a few people who will proclaim that TSCC is nothing without Cameron/Summer Glau. That may or may not be true, personally I believe such a statement is selling the other actors short, to say nothing of the writers. The reasoning behind my unpopular choice is nothing to do with the writers but rather Summer Glau herself. Few people would argue that the character of Cameron has thus far been the standout scene stealer of the series. Now assuming the second series continues to improve on what was set in place with the last few episodes of the first series, and doesn't make the fatal error of slipping back into the sort of teeny bopper melodrama that stifled some of the earlier episodes then TSCC will likely go from being a 'Breakout Hit' to becoming a bona fide ratings big hitter. With that, Summer Glau's star will definitely be on the rise. Now this represents a double edged sword for her. If she's happy simply working on TV then good luck to her and let's hope we see her in a variety of different series for years to come. If however she wants to make a genuine concerted effort in breaking into feature films then she needs to distance herself from being typecast as Cameron. Granted much of the stigma that was once associated with working on TV has slipped by the wayside but there is still a resistance to casting in high profile TV actors into feature films. Yes I know there are always exceptions. So lets assume the second series is a huge hit and FOX signs off on a third it's here where Summer Glau will face a decision on the future of her career. There has always been a school of thought that suggests that TV Sci-Fi can be a career dead end for many actors who get comfortable in a long running role. So if she does want to spread her wings then she needs to disassociate herself from Cameron sooner rather than later otherwise she'll run the risk of people not being able to distinguish between the character and the actor. Now let me make one thing clear I'm not some die hard Summer Glau, TSCC fan, I am a fan of good acting though. I've seen more than enough from Summer Glau in the last couple of years to convince me that she is genuinely talented, far more so than the vast majority of high profile actresses I could name. Let me leave you with this thought, the other week I dusted off my DVD of the Steven Shainberg film Secretary starring James Spader and Maggie Gyllenhaal. Every time I watch this film I'm amazed at the 'tightrope' performance of Gyllenhaal in a role that sooo easily could have blown up in her face. It got me thinking what other actress could best emote both verbally and physically the emotional and physical vulnerability of the character of Lee Holloway while at the same time being able to express a sense of strength and control in a relationship that on face value was highly exploitive of her emotional and physical desires? While there would be any number of stage actors who could, the only actress that I could put a name to a face who I believe could pull it off was Summer Glau. So I guess it's this desire to see Summer Glau try and tackle some very difficult 'edgy' roles that would have me killing off Cameron at the end of season 2 of TSCC in order to free up Summer Glau. I could not agree any more with what you said, ESPECIALLY the part about how Summer's acting skills are A LOT better than most of these high profile actresses. Plus, let me also throw out that I've been browsing through several forums pertaining to Christopher Nolan's new Batman trilogy (a third film has been given the green light) and I see people pitching Summer Glau as a lead candidate for the role of Catwoman. Now, the scariest part is, she actually has the look for that role, we already know about her experience in physical combat training (Firefly, Serenity, and now T:TSCC), and her well above average acting skills. However, the thing we need to ask ourselves is, has she made a big enough impact for Christopher Nolan and the writers of The Dark Knight to notice her? That question remains unanswered for now, but my answer would be no at the moment, both fortunately and unfortunately, haha. I say that because, as much as I want to see her become more successful and well noticed, I love having her on this show and I really can't see it lasting without her. I don't want that to take anything away from Thomas, Lena, and BAG, because they've all brought their A-game (especially BAG), and Thomas looks like he's developed his own craft with this upcoming season. But the thing is, Summer is the franchise player for this show (I've said this several times before), but I feel it needs to be stated again. This show definitely has a lot of talent, but let's face it, Summer is the MAIN reason why this show is at where it's at right now. She's more than just eye candy... she understands her role, she plays the expression/emotionless aspect so well, her unintentional humor and punchlines are GOLD, etc. She just knows how to make that character work to the T. It's debatable if this show would last without her (personally, I think it would go under quicker than the Titanic, but that's just my opinion). I think the reason the show could not go on without her is due to Thomas growing as an actor, Lena not being received exceptionally well by the die-hard fans (although, I LOVE her as Sarah), and people not being sold on BAG's dedication to this show (I think he's dedicated, but some reports still think he might try getting on that 90210 show). Honestly though, I don't see Summer leaving. I realize her popularity is growing and she's definitely more deserving of bigger and more credible roles, but I just don't know if the big boys in the biz see that yet. Anyway, I'm sticking to Agent Ellison. I think Cromartie is a decent choice, but I love Dillahunt's protrayal of the character and I'll be heated if he's killed (however, I'd still be mad if Ellison gets killed, haha). It just shows you how great this cast is when you really don't want to see any of them go.
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Post by vicheron on Aug 5, 2008 23:56:54 GMT -5
The way they've talked about this death doesn't make it sound like it's due to a personal choice by the actor. A lot of times characters are written off because the actor wants to move to a different city, start a family, do broadway, make a movie, etc., but they generally let people know about these decisions. At the very least, everyone on the show would know about it. Unless everyone on that panel was feigning surprise, I doubt that the actor asked to be written off the show.
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Post by Derek Reese on Aug 5, 2008 23:58:55 GMT -5
I agree with Vicheron on the situation as a whole.
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