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Post by thecolours on Jan 21, 2009 16:29:30 GMT -5
I think we're all going stir crazy without any new episodes to discuss. We've completely forgotten about Kyle Reese. lol
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Post by k8ie on Jan 21, 2009 22:08:24 GMT -5
Sacrilege. I, personally, think of Kyle Reese no less than three times a day.
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Post by richardstevenhack on Jan 22, 2009 0:14:14 GMT -5
Well, John Henry wants to be mobile. Remember the bit about tactile sensation being important for an AI. That was a setup for John Henry getting loose in the world.
They don't have to upload all of John Henry to whatever chip capacity Cromartie has left. They can just let John Henry run him remotely like a wireless robot toy. They'll have to fudge a bit in terms of how they got enough bandwidth, and what the distance to control him is, say, by satellite link or whatever, but that shouldn't be too hard. Based on the ability of Cromartie's head to remotely control his body in season one, I'd say Cromartie's body has a very long range remote control capability.
This would be a very interesting turnabout that I hadn't considered. It could mean Skynet becomes independent of Weaver and mobile. Cromartie's body is just about the perfect vehicle for it to begin its own evolution into Skynet.
It also fits in with the notion that, now that Cromartie is no longer hunting John Connor, they need another Terminator to resume hunting him in order to fit in the with the two main tracks of the franchise (protecting John and stopping Skynet). Having the prototype Skynet ITSELF take up the task of hunting John as well as evolving itself (like Cameron at the library) into Skynet would be really cool, uniting both concepts in one character.
It will make it a lot harder for the Connors to track down and stop Skynet if Skynet is itself mobile. The other element in that would be for Skynet to escape Weaver's server farm, so that it can move to other computer systems (possibly why Fischer installed the "roving back door" in government system, precisely for this reason). This would allow it to be almost untrackable by the Connors.
That would seriously limit the Connors options in stopping Skynet, while not damaging the Connors characterization as heroes.
I like that idea. I hope they do it.
Another possibility is that John Henry uses Cromartie's body to attack Weaver (since he apparently finds out that Weaver is a Terminator) and takes over her body instead of Cromartie's. Now he has both a chip that can run him in his present state AND a mobile body that is even more powerful than Cromartie's. This would be even more fun for the Connors.
Ooh, do it, do it! I like this.
As for Kyle Reese, I guess I'm in a minority. I don't care for the character at all. If he never shows up again, it wouldn't concern me in the least. Michael Biehn was cool in T-1, but the new one hasn't shown me anything interesting yet at all. He seems too passive compared to Biehn's intensity. They need to ramp him up a little more.
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Post by wb5 on Jan 22, 2009 17:48:13 GMT -5
Cromartie's body shouldn't be a match at all for Weaver, though. T1000's eat T800s for lunch, pretty much. Those things are nigh indestructible.
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Post by richardstevenhack on Jan 22, 2009 20:13:52 GMT -5
Yes, but if Cromartie is being run by the prototype Skynet, it's not beyond the realm of possibility that he figures out to take down Weaver.
Or possibly Weaver even voluntarily turns over her body to John Henry once she thinks he's ready for that.
I'd say the latter is very possible if Weaver's primary purpose is to insure Skynet's creation.
I had a concept for a T-3 movie before the real T-3 movie came out. The idea was that Skynet would send back a T-1000 to commit crimes disguised as Sarah Connor forcing her to come out of hiding. Then Skynet ITSELF (or more precisely a copy) comes back in an even more advanced nanotech body disguised as the CEO of Cyberdyne to insure its own creation (leaving aside the pointlessness of that if Skynet already exists in the present.) So then Sarah gets killed by Skynet in the process of taking down the T-1000. John then figures out how to take down Skynet which is why he is able to win the future war - because he's already beaten Skynet once in the past. Exactly how that happens I hadn't figured out in my plot concept.
I mean, the time travel "logic" is basically the same. If Kyle was sent back by John and ends up creating John, then it's no more unreasonable to think that Skynet itself comes back to create itself.
So I could see something similar going on with Weaver and John Henry. Weaver brings John Henry to the point of being Skynet, then Skynet takes over her body in order to run the war in the present. So John has Skynet as his direct adversary both in the present and in the future.
That would be really cool. And the other interesting thing about that is that it would remove the second main track of the franchise - stopping Skynet from existing - because Skynet would already exist. Then it becomes an issue of protecting John while trying to stop Skynet in the present which by definition would also prevent Skynet from existing in the future.
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