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Post by allergygal on Sept 18, 2008 12:47:06 GMT -5
I also like how these two characters can trade off the crazy - Sarah's approach is more cautious up to a point, but in the heat, she'll throw herself headfirst at a challenge and damn the consequences whereas Derek seems to be more likely to pull out and regroup. They've both spent the last 16, 17 years training, fighting, surviving but Sarah's never had anyone to fall back on whereas Derek's been part of an army - Sarah's First Recon and Derek's First Infantry (I've been reading Generation Kill ). Yeah they really are trading off the crazy, aren't they? I wonder what will happen when they're both crazy at the same time?
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Post by k8ie on Sept 18, 2008 12:55:30 GMT -5
Sex.
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Post by allergygal on Sept 18, 2008 13:00:02 GMT -5
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Post by k8ie on Sept 18, 2008 13:22:20 GMT -5
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Post by Derek Reese on Sept 18, 2008 13:25:30 GMT -5
There's always a possibility of that.
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Post by k8ie on Sept 18, 2008 13:44:22 GMT -5
The possibility is always intriguing (and seriously, Lena Headey is not wrong about Sarah needing a "night in"). It's clear Derek has moved Sarah into the column headed "Actively Protect" from "Do Not Inadvertently Get Killed By Metal". In both S&D and AftP Derek tries to get Sarah let him do the dirty work (although in S&D it was more "you should have let me do the dirty work") and both times Sarah's suggests that he get stuffed. Derek's never had a problem giving his opinion but I think it's definitely become personal for him - it's not about protecting the future leader and his mom - it's about protecting John and Sarah and it's making him more solicitous and territorial -- more the kid that taught his brother to play baseball, less the guy that shot Andy Goode in the head (ANDY! ). Derek's realizing that he has something to live for at about the same time Sarah's starting to give up hope. I'm really interested to see how that plays out.
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Post by Derek Reese on Sept 18, 2008 13:46:39 GMT -5
The possibility is always intriguing but, eitehr way, it's clear Derek has moved Sarah into the column headed "Actively work to protect" from "do not inadvertently get killed by a terminator" - in both S&D and AftP Derek tries to get Sarah let him do the dirty work (although in S&D it was more "you should have let me do the dirty work") and both times Sarah's suggests that he get stuffed. Derek's never had a problem giving his opinion but I think it's definitely become personal for him - it's not about protecting the future leader and his mom - it's about protecting John and Sarah and it's making him more solicitous and territorial -- more the kid that taught his brother to play baseball, less the guy that shot Andy Goode in the head (ANDY!). Derek's realizing that he has something to live for at about the same time Sarah's starting to give up hope. I'm really interested to see how that plays out. Well said Katie and I do agree entirely. It's like he's getting a second chance at things via time travel.
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Post by roseredscare on Sept 18, 2008 15:50:35 GMT -5
I wish they would show this on the show as apposed to us grasping at straws and making vague guesses as to the character's state of mind.
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Post by k8ie on Sept 18, 2008 17:42:38 GMT -5
I don't get your meaning, Rose. Everything I'm talking about comes from the episodes. They've given us plenty of information about the kind of person Derek Reese is and what makes him tick.
The only thing that's in any way vauge is why he didn't run through the Room Full of Nuclear Waste after Sarah, which is actually kind of self-evident. You can (and I did) dig deeper to rationalize it if you want but you don't really have to live through a nuclear holocaust to baulk at exposing yourself to unknown amounts of radiation.
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Post by saskaia on Sept 19, 2008 15:43:36 GMT -5
The possibility is always intriguing (and seriously, Lena Headey is not wrong about Sarah needing a "night in"). It's clear Derek has moved Sarah into the column headed "Actively Protect" from "Do Not Inadvertently Get Killed By Metal". In both S&D and AftP Derek tries to get Sarah let him do the dirty work (although in S&D it was more "you should have let me do the dirty work") and both times Sarah's suggests that he get stuffed. Derek's never had a problem giving his opinion but I think it's definitely become personal for him - it's not about protecting the future leader and his mom - it's about protecting John and Sarah and it's making him more solicitous and territorial -- more the kid that taught his brother to play baseball, less the guy that shot Andy Goode in the head (ANDY! ). Derek's realizing that he has something to live for at about the same time Sarah's starting to give up hope. I'm really interested to see how that plays out. Yes! Perfectly said, and I agree with all of it. ;D It's less reverence and hero-worship now; Sarah and John are his family and I think he will do anything to protect them (which worries me a bit with some season two decisions, but I'll wait and see). When it comes to a ship where both are living (Kyle/Sarah will always be my OTP) Derek/Sarah makes so much sense to me, the angsty sex. Please, can we have it now? He was willing to get himself purposely shot and killed in Queen's Gambit to protect Sarah and John. Why would he hesitate at a little radiation? Also, keep in mind Derek's just found the last bit of family he's got in John and Sarah (my pet theory is he wasn't 100 per cent about Sarah and Kyle and John's relationship until he saw John's face in the park) and he's transferring all the protective instincts he had about Kyle onto them - and part of watching out for John and Sarah means staying alive to watch out for them. *nodding* I believe Derek sees John and Sarah as his second chance and he's almost more hell-bent on stopping JD now that he knows even more family will be affected by it. Derek seems to be deep with all of his emotions, and his love for John, especially, is consuming.
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Post by theturk on Sept 19, 2008 17:59:02 GMT -5
Derek has necessarily taken a backseat to Sarah and John in the first couple of episodes, but you'll start to see his arc really kick into gear quite soon. He's a very strong presence in "The Mousetrap," "Goodbye to All That" is primarily a Derek and John story, and you'll be seeing a lot more of him in subsequent episodes...
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Post by Derek Reese on Sept 19, 2008 18:38:33 GMT -5
Glad to hear that in regards to things.
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Post by amelie on Sept 19, 2008 20:47:28 GMT -5
Sex??? I won't mind at all
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Post by DerekThomasReese on Sept 23, 2008 8:45:34 GMT -5
I wonder what would happen to Derek in the future if he survives.Like if they fail to stop judgement day what would happen to Derek.Would he become one of John's top commanding officers?Or would he become a shadowy figure that manipulated John's actions and decisions from behind the scenes.If he was one of John's top commanding officers then he would need change his name and appearance since everyone would know who he is.If boths Derek's older and younger met each other by accident in the future then everything may go to hell.Younger Derek would have to be told why older Derek is there and then he'd probably have to be told about Kyle.And if he gets told would that affect his life knowing that for his commanding officer who he hardly knows to be born his little brother who he absolutely adores and loves to die.If he became a shadowy figure then he would have to remain hidden in order for everything to not be altered.Both could work well since he would have knowledge on the battles and that would give them a great tactical advantage.I hope that the writers try and make this clear if they decide to do any full future war episodes (not Derek or Cameron flashbacks but real ones) where we see an older John and Derek,Ellison,Charley and Cameron as his top advisors.It would make for one interesting episode.(I didn't add Sarah since she is supposedly dead by then).
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Post by roseredscare on Sept 25, 2008 10:42:01 GMT -5
Things I'd like to get answered on the show...
Andy was one of Derek's best friends in the future, what are Derek's inter-feelings about killing him? Why did it take him so long to kill Andy? Why did he bother to lie to Sarah about it when he was probably a dead man in prison anyway? Is his dislike for Cameron simply because she's a robot or is it something more personal? Where has he seen her before? What happened in the basement in D&D? Was Cameron involved? Why were the fighter let go alive? When did Derek figure out John was his nephew? What are his thoughts and emotions on that revelation? Is he conflicted? Proud and bitter at the same time? How is this affecting his current relationship with John? Sarah? Does he want to know the details of his brother's last moments? Has he visited his grave yet? What are this thoughts on the whole time paradox of John's existence? Does Derek still think he can fix all the mistakes including saving his brother? How is John dealing with the present pain and anguish Derek is going through over Kyle now because of a decision John hasn't even made yet?
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