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Post by Derek Reese on Feb 29, 2008 16:10:24 GMT -5
Discuss the character here. Although he's yet to appear what Terminator site would be complete without discussion of the model and its relation to the Connor's.
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Post by timstuff on Sept 24, 2008 17:39:30 GMT -5
I want to know if they're going to have a nod at explaining Uncle Bob's accent in the show. Maybe in one episode, the Connors will track down a robotics engineer who will somehow be involved in the creation of the first Terminators, and he'll have a thick Austrian accent. Since Skynet's robots would be spawned from his work, his accent would have made its way into some of the earlier models. It'd be a fun nod to the fans.
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Post by findingjay on Sept 27, 2008 8:51:07 GMT -5
Wasn't there a scraped scene in T3 where his Austrian accent was explained? I'm not sure if the deleted scenes are counted as canon or not the movie verse, but I'm fairly certain there was some explanation intended to be given.
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Post by timstuff on Sept 27, 2008 12:47:22 GMT -5
That was a scene as a bonus goody for the T3 game, but since the game was a piece of crap and no-one bought it, they included it on the DVD too. It was never intended to be part of the film though, and even though it was a great humor moment, it didn't really make any sense in the grand scheme of Terminator canon. They are basically saying that development of the T-800 began in the early 2000s, and that they are all based on someone who looked just like Uncle Bob. However, as the movies demonstrated, the T-800 did not come into existance until 20 years later. And as we've known since the first film, Terminators have had quite a bit of variety in their physical appearance, even from early on.
TSCC does not use T3 as canon. It did borrow some things, like Sarah getting cancer, and a female Terminator who has a blue glow in her eyes instead of red, but that's about it. I'd prefer that TSCC come up with their own explanation to Uncle Bob's accent, and do it in a way that's not overtly obvious, but something the fans would pick up on. By giving an Austrian accent to the programmer responsible for the technology that spawns the first Terminators, they'd be giving a nod to where Uncle Bob's accent came from without saying "Hahah! Look at this, this is crazy!" as was the case with the T3 scene.
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Post by findingjay on Sept 27, 2008 21:48:35 GMT -5
Ahh, okay. I know T:SCC doesn't use the T3 to, well, a tee, and I've only ever seen T3 on the TV. It would be interesting to see if they do reference or explain the Austrian accent, though. Has it ever been stated if the terminators are worldwide? They're obviously in the mainland US (and quite possibly Canada and perhaps even Mexico), but what about the rest of the world? It'd be interesting to see perhaps some other accents or ethnicities pop up.
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Post by traitorsgate on Sept 28, 2008 1:59:02 GMT -5
Has it ever been stated if the terminators are worldwide? They're obviously in the mainland US (and quite possibly Canada and perhaps even Mexico), but what about the rest of the world? It'd be interesting to see perhaps some other accents or ethnicities pop up. Certainly not in any of the films or TSCC. For the purpose of the Terminator franchise the 'world' is basically mainland America. It may have been covered in a fan-fiction work? It's Hollywood remember these people have a rather naive, blinked view of the world.
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Post by timstuff on Oct 1, 2008 0:41:12 GMT -5
I'm sure that human survivors exist in other parts of the world, but Skynet primarily exists in America, because that's where it was created. John Connor's military campaign is what leads to Skynet's destruction, and since he is an American, the story naturally takes place primarily in America. I do agree though, that the geographical scope of the Terminator franchise has traditionally been very narrow. I think that can mostly be attributed to the fact that it began as a 6 million dollar action B movie.
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Post by Derek Reese on Oct 1, 2008 0:43:31 GMT -5
The Dark Horse comics run actually at one point moved the storyline geographically to Russia and a band of surviviors there before they ended up dealing with a Terminator or two on a sub before ridding themselves of it.
But let's take these thread back to the subject at hand: "Uncle Bob."
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Post by richardstevenhack on Oct 2, 2008 1:26:51 GMT -5
Well, not only is the whole story basically limited to America, it's actually limited to Los Angeles. I mean, Skynet's time machine that Kyle Reese went through was in Topanga Canyon, for God's sakes!
John Connor hasn't moved twenty miles out of Los Angeles, apparently, since Judgment Day.
OTOH, cross-country travel in a country overrun with Terminators and H-K's probably isn't a good idea.
As for Uncle Bob, did you notice that the guard Terminator in the interrogation house had some prosthetic makeup to make him look somewhat like Uncle Bob? He was clearly an old T-101 relegated to guard duty.
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Post by vicheron on Oct 2, 2008 1:37:11 GMT -5
That Terminator was a T-600 since it had rubber skin.
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Post by richardstevenhack on Oct 4, 2008 22:15:34 GMT -5
How can you tell it had rubber skin?
I think it was clear that they were going for the "Arnie" look from the appearance of the actor's face.
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Post by timstuff on Oct 22, 2008 7:08:24 GMT -5
How can you tell it had rubber skin? Mostly because it had no blood / redness near wounds, and it had shiny skin. It was also very pale in comparison to a living being, and when it was using the locks on the floor you could see rubbery folds in its wrists, which do not appear on human flesh. Back on topic, I wonder when we're going to get another reference to Uncle Bob? There's only been one in the entire show to my memory, when Silberman recounted his run in with the Terminators at the mental hospital. What would be interesting if at one point John and Cameron have a conversation about him, because there are a lot of interesting places they could go with it.
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Post by vicheron on Oct 22, 2008 22:21:53 GMT -5
How can you tell it had rubber skin? Mostly because it had no blood / redness near wounds, and it had shiny skin. It was also very pale in comparison to a living being, and when it was using the locks on the floor you could see rubbery folds in its wrists, which do not appear on human flesh. Plus its face looked a lot like the mask Michael Meyers wears and the mask that Joan Rivers wears.
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Post by timstuff on Nov 13, 2008 7:28:54 GMT -5
I was thinking... Wouldn't it be cool if there was an episode where the Connors discovered that Uncle Bob had a secondary objective in 1995, and they had to sort of follow his ghost to figure out what it was and what its significance is? It would be a really interesting way to have a reference to him, and maybe even have an entire episode revolve around him, without ever having to actually show him. It would also open the door for John to reminisce about him, and maybe for Cameron to talk to John about the one other Terminator who he became friends with.
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Post by terminatornerd on Nov 22, 2008 14:57:24 GMT -5
They seem to have COMPLETELY forgotten Uncle Bob and they need to discuss him and his rapport with John.
Also... I ask again, why can Arnie's Terminator feel and love and "get it," but Cameron seemingly cannot?
If you read quotes from James Cameron and watch the extensive supplements on the old laserdisc and the special edition DVD's, it was CLEAR that Uncle Bob gained real emotions and James Cameron's creation gained his heart. He became more than a machine.
That means Josh's idea of not exploring Cameron gaining humanity is not in keeping with the Terminator universe because James Cameron was not looking at just your typical AI platform in a scientific sense. There were fantasy elements weaved in as well, so that his point could be made that if a killer machine could gain his humanity maybe we humans could too.
That kind of irks me about the direction Josh seems to be taking Cam and the other advanced Terminators.
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