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Post by allergygal on Feb 21, 2009 13:23:52 GMT -5
Preview pics: Caption: Jesse and Derek have target practice. Caption: Jesse discusses a mission with Derek. Caption: John works on Cameron's arm. Caption: John and Riley Discuss her personal problems.
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Post by aceplace57 on Feb 25, 2009 0:14:38 GMT -5
I bet Cameron wishes they hadn't been quite so hasty with the thermite. She could use a few spare parts right about now.
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Post by Erika on Feb 25, 2009 14:14:25 GMT -5
Official ep description:
TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES (8:00-9:01 PM ET/PT) – “Ourselves Alone” The return of Cameron’s (Summer Glau) glitch results in regrettable consequences for everyone, and Riley (Leven Rambin) fears Cameron has discovered her secret.
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Post by wb5 on Feb 25, 2009 19:41:59 GMT -5
Nice to see John working on fixing Cameron (though a mechanical problem in this particular instance, I guess she will have far worse problems in this episode).
Riley looks quite different from usual in that pic with John.
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Post by nordwest on Feb 26, 2009 15:23:53 GMT -5
This might be not that much a Cameron episode. It might be more John and his four girls: Cameron, Riley, Sarah and Jesse with a focus on the robot. Considering this you may find the character constellation a bit awkward. We have a central male hero and too many women who want his love or him going on the right track or something.
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Post by VALIANT CHAMPION on Feb 27, 2009 21:50:53 GMT -5
I think if Cameron has another glitch that John is so hung up on her by now he would stand between her and the rest. If I were John I would consider her my soul mate!! I wouldnt be freaked out at all. I mean he already had an experience with a terminator when he was a few years younger. In a matter of days he was a close friend to an emotionless machine telling Arnold things he probably wouldnt tell anyone else.
The theory that Cameron was an interrogator or torturer in Dungeons and Dragons based on the music being played which matched the music she danced to later on is an interesting theory. However it could also suggest a connection with the Russian who was teamed up with Andy Goode. The one whose sister taught dance class. Also remember that the Russian taught Turk how to play chess. perhaps he also instilled a fondness for Russian dance music into Turk2(skynet).
Keep also in mind that if Cameron was in the basement in Dungeon and Dragons and was playing that music or listening to that music we have to ask ourselves where she learned the music from then. Did she learn how to dance in the future before she came back? What is the musical connection?
When the dance teacher asked her if she had ever learned to dance before she said no. Basically suggesting that her precise and expert moves were simply based on accurate observation and mimicry of other dancers.
Since Derek cannot remember what happened in Dungeons and Dragons we must also assume that whatever hostile memory he has of Cameron must not be related to whatever happened in the basement of Dungeons and Dragons. One prime candidate for me as far as a theory for his hostility is that Allison Young was his girlfriend which was killed and replaced by Cameron which than executed some kind of hostile mission of which Derek was aware.
He of course not knowing that Cameron had been reprogrammed since that mission.
Just my two cents.
Not to say the writers havent looked that deeply into the storyline. But we all see a lot of Chicken before the egg things here.
Also since Cameron must have been a companion to John for quite some time during the future before she went back we can only assume that it must not have been her in the basement during Dungeons and Dragons or else John briefed her on his entire life in a few days before sending her back in time.
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Post by angelmark on Feb 28, 2009 9:10:35 GMT -5
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Post by VALIANT CHAMPION on Feb 28, 2009 12:13:56 GMT -5
Riley is toast. But I wonder if Cameron will kill her or Jesse will kill her once she realizes Riley cant help her to isolate Cameron away from John.
Jesse isnt particularly fond of Riley and only brought her back to use her as a pawn.
Plus we dont know a whole lot about Jesse. She could be a skynet agent.
Hopefully some of that will be cleared up during the submarine episodes.
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Post by t101 on Feb 28, 2009 12:43:35 GMT -5
Since the promo makes such an effort to lead you to believe Cameron is about to kill Riley, it's probably not going to happen.
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Post by Hollow Crown on Feb 28, 2009 14:36:23 GMT -5
I like how John's Mom doesn't even believe him, haha. That guy can never catch a break.
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Post by wb5 on Feb 28, 2009 15:59:14 GMT -5
Since the promo makes such an effort to lead you to believe Cameron is about to kill Riley, it's probably not going to happen. I sincerely hope so. The promo is definitely cut to make it seem like Cameron kills her, but that would diminish her character. She knows John cares about her and even if this by itself wouldn't give Cameron pause (which wouldn't be good at all), she still has to consider what would happen if John would find out. Even if something happens to Riley and she didn't do it, John would likely be suspicious of her right away. I hope Cameron was merely freaking her out real good to scare her into leaving, and the very last second of the promo is taken completely out of context. Jesse ending up killing Riley would also seem to be more natural within the story; her cover is clearly about to be exposed, Riley will talk and Jesse probably can't allow that. (I very much doubt Jesse is a Skynet agent, though - just a resistance member who has had a really bad experience with "scrubbed" Terminators, and ruthless theway Derek is, but worse). Keep also in mind that if Cameron was in the basement in Dungeon and Dragons and was playing that music or listening to that music we have to ask ourselves where she learned the music from then. Did she learn how to dance in the future before she came back? What is the musical connection? Allison's mother played Chopin, IIRC. There are quite strong suggestions in the show ("allison of palmdale", present scenes) that Cameron somehow has acess to Allison memories. The future Terminators may have a way to extract data from a human brain (likely a destructive procedure, though).
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Post by VALIANT CHAMPION on Feb 28, 2009 17:25:52 GMT -5
I read that in some fan fiction once. Supposedly that helped to explain why Cameron became emotional when the Allison persona manifested itself.
I am still a bit confused though how Cameron could have been captured and reprogrammed in a matter of days and became such a close friend with Future John that he poured out his whole life story to her.
Based on Camerons numerous recollections it appeared that her and Future John has spent a considerable amount of time together.
Unless of course Derek being offered the mission to travel back happened sometime before he actually went or..........
Cameron stayed with John for a considerable time after Derek left.
Then we have to ask ourselves how a Cameron who had only been reprogrammed a few days earlier would have been given access through retinal scans to Future John that not even other humans would be allowed to.
Also that the engineer who was sent back in time to build the plasma weapon and time machine in 1963 possessed Camerons personal retina match so that she could activate the time machine in 1999.
It looks likely that Cameron is somehow involved in Dungeons and Dragons but if she is I am having a hard time seeing how the writers are going to tie in the loose ends. Which are significant to me.
Either she spent a lot of time with Future John before going back to the past or she didnt.
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Post by wb5 on Feb 28, 2009 19:55:16 GMT -5
Maybe Allison spent a lot of time with Future John? Or, in a classic Terminator time paradox, he trusted her very rapidly because he knew her from the past?
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Post by Hollow Crown on Feb 28, 2009 23:28:58 GMT -5
If you notice in the preview, Cameron isn't the one attacking Riley. Right after Cameron says "I can't let you leave" it cuts to Riley in distress in what appears to be a living room or bedroom, or any type of "room" setting. You even see a lamp, which is clearly not in the outhouse of w/e Cameron and Riley are. I'm putting money on Jesse taking out Riley.
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Post by aceplace57 on Feb 28, 2009 23:40:58 GMT -5
I have issues with Sarah accusing John about lying. As kids go John's unusually polite, helpful and courteous with strangers. He doesn't smoke, drink or do drugs. A lot of parents would give anything to have a 16 year old like that. Heck he hasn't even given into carnal temptation with Cameron. ;D
There's got to be trust between a parent and child. Unless, past experience proves otherwise. For Sarah to call John a liar about something as important as J-day is pretty F'd up. If Sarah isn't capable of trusting her own son then the paranoia has fried her brain.
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