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Post by Hollow Crown on Mar 2, 2009 15:39:57 GMT -5
At 0:16 that's definitely Jesse stricking Riley. You can just tell from the leather jacket, which we already see Jesse wearing in the previous preview. There is no doubt in my mind that Jesse will kill Riley, but frame Cameron for it (whoever initially mentioned this is right on the money).
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Post by t101 on Mar 2, 2009 15:56:26 GMT -5
I'm just wandering if this will look like Jesse's last desperate attempt or if it was part of the plan all along. Because I really want a definitive answer to what her end game was supposed to be. I don't want to be left guessing.
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Post by VALIANT CHAMPION on Mar 2, 2009 16:05:16 GMT -5
At 0:16 that's definitely Jesse stricking Riley. You can just tell from the leather jacket, which we already see Jesse wearing in the previous preview. There is no doubt in my mind that Jesse will kill Riley, but frame Cameron for it (whoever initially mentioned this is right on the money). Time will tell. My other prediction is that if Jesse kills Riley, it will happen at the very last when most people have taken a sigh of relief that Riley wont die in the episode.....being that she got away from Cameron of which most considered to be her only physical threat. Of course thats the fun of speculating on these shows. We wont know for sure til it goes down. LOL
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Post by k8ie on Mar 3, 2009 17:21:20 GMT -5
It appears Sarah and Jesse meet this episode.
Hmmmm.
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Post by terrasj on Mar 3, 2009 22:19:23 GMT -5
Not seen this on here anywhere, apologies if it's up and I've missed it... New trailer for 2X17 & Dollhouse up on youtube www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMeUCFRLOOY Couple of very quick new bits including Riley being shoved into something and John deciding "today is the day" which by some weird coincidence is the title of the next ep... Karma for posting that teaser! It's been bugging me since last Friday to see it again. I've been playing that clip over a few times, looking and listening carefully as its all so fast. Its cleverly stitched together while leaving it fairly vague, even the sequence of clips are probably out of order. As far as I can make out what they're saying: Wild guess here - John's up to something, possibly confronting some issue or subject. Riley has nowheres to go and John offers a place to stay at the house (while Riley's in the garage) and is going to have to take it up with 'mom' ? I'm guessing Riley's talking to Jesse about Cameron? Thats the two of them in the scene, as Jesse turns sideways slightly... The 'settles an old score' narration is wide open though. I'm either guessing Jesse going to take some decisive action regarding John, with Cameron as a possible rivalry / enemy? The scene switches so fast to the next one with Cameron and Riley, I can't help but guess... Can't help but guess perhaps the old rivalry to settle might relate to Cameron and Riley. Settling an old score, Cameron confronting Riley regarding Riley and John's relationship... In an earlier episode (Mr. Fergussen is Ill today), at the beginning, Cameron did spy and observe John and Riley before trying to convince him to let Riley go. There still might be some ongoing jealous rivalry happening here, that Cameron's addressing Riley face to face in what appears to be the garage at the back of the Connor's house. Quite possibly Cameron found Riley hanging around there while John's elsewheres. But it might not be that kind of romantic jealousy over John's affections either. Cameron's already pegged Riley for being different, something about her. Maybe Cameron hasn't quite figured out the truth yet, but that meeting in the Garage could be more about looking after John's well-being. Cameron telling Riley she's a threat to John - which is a truth, as Riley's caused John to do some pretty wild and reckless / dangerous choices. Though at the same time, its a double edged sword there - if Cameron disposes of Riley, or makes Riley leave / run away, John's going to be at Cameron's throat. That'll pretty much end that scene where it originally started, a confrontation between the two, but nothing happens in result. The Riley getting smacked-down by Jesse scene - I'm also guessing it could be actually an old score between Jesse and Riley. It could possibly be Riley's talking to Jesse, about Cameron in the teaser scene there, saying "Cameron is gonna kill me" or possibly "John is gonna kill me" even, as they're walking in a parking lot, some industrial or wharehouse district. Riley begs Jesse to let her stay with her, as she's got nowheres else to go - not begs, pleads. It turns into a heated argument, Jesse gets royally fed up and being the hard case that she is, snaps and starts putting the smackdown on Riley, starting with the kick to the face followed by a shove and tackle into some shelving. Riley maybe fights back, she's been cold shouldered by Jesse long enough, now getting pounded out on, and goes on the defensive. Even if Riley was the shy and mousey type of teenage orphaned girl in the future, she's had to survive somehow, and probably had to fight for her life on occasion when backed into a corner. When backed into a corner some huddle into a ball, while others bare their teeth in a last defiant defense.
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Post by aceplace57 on Mar 4, 2009 3:13:12 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to the scene where John fixes Cameron's arm. I think it's going to be a very sweet scene. TSCC doesn't offer a lot of sentimentality. Should be a nice moment before all the carnage starts. I keep thinking of Aesop's fable - the lion with the thorn in his foot. The slave removes the thorn, bandages the foot and makes a friend of the wild beast. Maybe it works for Terminators too. Aesop's Lion fable www.pitt.edu/~dash/type0156.html
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Post by terrasj on Mar 4, 2009 3:53:32 GMT -5
Interesting relation there acerplace! I remember that one from childhood, in one cartoon incarnation or another... Your right that could be a sweet scene. That could possibly be Cameron's 'glitch' ... A bit of her motor control in her hand servos acting up and needing a little fix there. Dunno how major or minor the fixing is required, though John seems not to mind fixing her up a bit, nor does it look Cameron minds the attention John's doting on her
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Post by Hollow Crown on Mar 5, 2009 1:19:30 GMT -5
I'm sure Riley's big action scene comes in this episode. For those that don't know or simply forgot, Leven revealed she had a big action scene in one of the episodes for the back nine back in January.
I wonder if it's against Cameron or Jesse. It'd be sweet if she goes out guns blazing.
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Post by timstuff on Mar 5, 2009 1:40:43 GMT -5
Nice to see us Jameron fans getting a bone tossed to us lately. ;D BTW, last week's episode was confusing... I got that it was supposed to be that Sarah getting kidnapped was the reality, and her stay at the sleep clinic was the dream, but still, it was a very trippy way to tell the episode. I guess that means John's interactions with Cameron were a product of Sarah's imagination, as well? I guess she hasn't forgotten that Cameron doesn't always walk around the house fully clothed, and wonders what John's reaction to it is when mommy isn't watching...
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Post by terrasj on Mar 5, 2009 2:19:49 GMT -5
Those are some sweet spoiler pics there Timstuff! Karma! Guess I was right, Cameron is enjoying the attention John's doting on her, she's got some arm damage there, but at the same time she's also holding his hand... Nice bit of affection there The second pic can only make me wonder the context is behind that teaser screencap is. Here's another Jameron fan hoping for some long awaited sweetness
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Post by Hollow Crown on Mar 5, 2009 16:20:15 GMT -5
I keep thinking today is Friday. :-(
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Post by terrasj on Mar 5, 2009 16:25:33 GMT -5
I keep thinking today is Friday. :-( One more sleep and half a day's wait and it'll be showtime!
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Post by Hollow Crown on Mar 5, 2009 16:52:15 GMT -5
That's still too long for me. Damn this show for getting me overly-excited again.
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Post by timstuff on Mar 5, 2009 17:31:59 GMT -5
I keep thinking today is Friday. :-( Just go to a midnight showing of Watchmen tonight. 8 PM Friday will be here before you know it.
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Post by VALIANT CHAMPION on Mar 6, 2009 21:07:58 GMT -5
I couldn't believe how accurate my predictions were. What caught me off guard was to see how violent Riley got. If Jesse hadn't got the pistol out she would have been a gonner for sure. I hate what is happening to Cameron. It is so sad. I was refreshed to realize that she was only hording those endo- parts for self repair. She really is being as honest to John as a robot can be considering that she must follow her programming and mission.
It's almost a struggle between John's trust and the other's mistrust.
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