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Post by Derek Reese on Feb 29, 2008 15:26:20 GMT -5
Discuss the relationship here.
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Post by laneconnor on Feb 29, 2008 16:35:50 GMT -5
While it still feels like "humping the toaster" at some level, I'm strangely addicted to this pairing. Specially the older!John/Cameron realtionship, it almost feels like... she's his only friend. Like the T-800.
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Post by Derek Reese on Feb 29, 2008 16:37:44 GMT -5
It's rather ironic, that she tells him that she has many friends in the future yet within Derek's future, he seems to stick around John more than anything else. Although that's not to say that he doesn't interact. Just seems like it's their world and nothing else.
Half makes one wonder if she was the first one to be reprogrammed in the SCCverse.
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Post by laneconnor on Feb 29, 2008 20:02:02 GMT -5
Maybe he programmed her to tell that to himself that when he was 16, who knows? Maybe John longs for friends, but if there is one constant about great leaders is that they're often lonely men (or women). Perhaps having Cameron there makes it better, the loneliness and all, maybe after Sarah "died" he didn't trust anyone else again.
I don't really know, this is all pure speculation.
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Post by Derek Reese on Feb 29, 2008 22:33:10 GMT -5
That's the catch of the moment. Speculation dominates. I half wonder if we'll see Cameron in T4 since she's part of the Terminator-verse these days or maybe a Cromeartie.
On some level, I can see John admiring her and falling for her at his age, despite the fact that she's not human physically, although she is starting to become more and more human as the series goes on. I've got a feeling we may reach Pilot-level Cameron again at some point in the future.
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Post by laneconnor on Feb 29, 2008 23:55:55 GMT -5
On some level, I can see John admiring her and falling for her at his age, despite the fact that she's not human physically, although she is starting to become more and more human as the series goes on. I've got a feeling we may reach Pilot-level Cameron again at some point in the future.
You know, I get the same feeling. I just hope that by trying to "humanize" her the writers don't screw up the character.
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Post by Derek Reese on Feb 29, 2008 23:58:04 GMT -5
The thing is she's one of the most advanced forms of Terminator. The next stop in Terminator evolution would invariably be one, that's fully human. Even if their mind of a different level of technology than our own.
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Post by dhfreak on Mar 1, 2008 20:08:35 GMT -5
This pairing strangely attracts me a lot. I don't know why. Just the chemistry between both of them.
I always though John will never be able to handle a relationship for the reason that he is this great leader. He is destine to fight the machines and the irony is that here there is a machine that understand him.
He is destine to take the path with a machine that is why he trust them so much. He send them himself. He has to understand them in order to destroy them.
And plus Cameron/John moments are priceless.
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Post by laneconnor on Mar 1, 2008 21:06:17 GMT -5
Hey Mel nice to see you here, this is Maria (youjustjump) from Livejournal, I'm one of the headmistresses over at MOAD.com and a Moderator here.
He has to understand them in order to destroy them.
That's a very interesting take on the relationship. Maybe the real reason John sent Cameron was so he could start to understand the machines better since he was young, plus she's the ultimate model, like Derek said, I don't think that's a coincidence either. He could have sent "Uncle Bob" ( ;D) all over again because he would trust him from the beginning instead he sent Cameron...
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Post by dhfreak on Mar 1, 2008 21:14:23 GMT -5
Hey Maria is good to see you here.
Well I think. That he is falling for her. And what better way to destroy them but with the help of Cameron. Here being different like you mention Derek said.
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Post by laneconnor on Mar 1, 2008 21:20:53 GMT -5
I think there will be some sort of "relationship" because I think they will try to humanize Cameron more, but I don't see a future for them. Maybe as commrades or friends, yes. But right now it's pretty one-sided (he kinda has a crush on her) and I don't think she's going to start having "feelings" any time soon (at least I hope not, I love the angst!)
Great to see you here too.
Hey check your PM box. I sent you something that might interest you.
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Post by dhfreak on Mar 1, 2008 21:40:12 GMT -5
That is true I am a sucker for angst.
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Post by Derek Reese on Mar 1, 2008 22:24:37 GMT -5
There was one case in Terminator fiction, where John actually fell in love with a Terminator and that was in TERMINATOR: RISING STORM. Part of a trilogy story arc, that tied up loose ends of T2. The character of course was killed during their fight against Skynet and she sided with them, much like Cameron does in the series.
Is it possible to get that kind of interaction? Maybe....
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Post by dhfreak on Mar 1, 2008 23:47:04 GMT -5
I would like the story to develop where Cameron actually does get feelings. But I think that would take a while. I love the idea of her becoming something more to John, which I think she already is. John become attach to his Terminator protectors.
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Post by Derek Reese on Mar 1, 2008 23:51:55 GMT -5
Cameron is beginning to understand emotions from being around the Connor's, though we don't fully know her model's capability. Aside from the fact that she's the most human Terminator thus far.
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